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Thread: Death Penalty in Theory

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    Re: Death Penalty in Theory

    Quote Originally Posted by afr0byte View Post
    That doesn't justify killing someone that's no longer a threat to society. The justice system shouldn't be about revenge.
    The death penalty IS justice.
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    Re: Death Penalty in Theory

    Quote Originally Posted by lizzie View Post
    I support it in the case of murder which can be proved beyond any doubt whatsoever. The death penalty for someone who intentionally causes the death of another, without cause, is justice.
    That's certainly something I agree with. I just question the ability to prove beyond a reasonable doubt the guilt of the convicted enough in our system. Even with the extreme nature of death penalty trials with a higher standard for proof and many expert witnesses called, which contributes to its immense cost, there still seem to have been a large number of exonerated death row inmates, even within the last decade. Likely even more should have been, but were executed before being exonerated which usually halts the investigations.
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    Re: Death Penalty in Theory

    Quote Originally Posted by Anagram View Post
    Well I think the counter argument would be that the same is done to the executed person's family, but like I said of all those arguments, I find that one the least compelling.
    Fair enough, but their torture is that they have a murderer in the family. The murderer is the one that caused that torment.
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    Re: Death Penalty in Theory

    Quote Originally Posted by davidtaylorjr View Post
    The death penalty IS justice.
    Maybe in your eyes. It's wrong though.

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    Re: Death Penalty in Theory

    I am absolutely in support of the death penalty and I don't think it gets used nearly enough. I think we ought to eliminate LWOP and put anyone who is never going to get out of prison to death.
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    Re: Death Penalty in Theory

    Quote Originally Posted by afr0byte View Post
    Maybe in your eyes. It's wrong though.
    Why is it wrong. Why don't you spell that out for us?
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    Re: Death Penalty in Theory

    Quote Originally Posted by Cephus View Post
    I am absolutely in support of the death penalty and I don't think it gets used nearly enough. I think we ought to eliminate LWOP and put anyone who is never going to get out of prison to death.
    It would certainly deter a lot of crime I am sure.
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    Re: Death Penalty in Theory

    Quote Originally Posted by Anagram View Post
    That's certainly something I agree with. I just question the ability to prove beyond a reasonable doubt the guilt of the convicted enough in our system. Even with the extreme nature of death penalty trials with a higher standard for proof and many expert witnesses called, which contributes to its immense cost, there still seem to have been a large number of exonerated death row inmates, even within the last decade. Likely even more should have been, but were executed before being exonerated which usually halts the investigations.
    Also, even with DNA technology, lab errors happen. The technicians are human beings, and they make mistakes sometimes. Also, there are sometimes more nefarious reasons for mix-ups that occur in a laboratory. I gave two examples in another thread of recent cases where forensic lab technicians were charged with evidence tampering in Massachusetts.

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    Re: Death Penalty in Theory

    Quote Originally Posted by davidtaylorjr View Post
    The death penalty IS justice.
    Not really. It consumes innocent life, it is not a deterrent, it is super expensive, and it doesn't net society any additional safety for the cost. It's easier and cheaper just to house a prisoner for life and we don't have to open the can of worms associated with the death penalty. There's not much need for it. We'd be better served reforming our prison system in general.
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    Re: Death Penalty in Theory

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    Also, even with DNA technology, lab errors happen. The technicians are human beings, and they make mistakes sometimes. Also, there are sometimes more nefarious reasons for mix-ups that occur in a laboratory. I gave two examples in another thread of recent cases where forensic lab technicians were charged with evidence tampering in Massachusetts.
    Many of the cases I've read about had to do with law enforcement perjury. Its hard to prove anything beyond a reasonable doubt when you consider that some of these people have an incentive to lie in order to get a conviction.
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