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Thread: Death Penalty in Theory

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    Re: Death Penalty in Theory

    Quote Originally Posted by Red_Dave View Post
    I think life should mean life as far as murder convictions are concerned but its probably fair to say that the number of innocent people executed fair outweighs the number of people killed during prison visiting hours.
    I'm glad to hear nobody has ever escaped from prison. This had escaped my attention.

    I think the number of people killed by released or escaped repeat offenders far outweighs the number of mistakenly executed persons.

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    Re: Death Penalty in Theory

    Quote Originally Posted by Artevelde View Post
    I'm glad to hear nobody has ever escaped from prison. This had escaped my attention.

    I think the number of people killed by released or escaped repeat offenders far outweighs the number of mistakenly executed persons.
    Well the last time we had a near miss in so far as executing innocent people can be heard about here Guildford Four and Maguire Seven - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia . At this time the death penalty had been abolished for murder but not for high treason against the crown. Fortunately the prosecution didn't charge these people with high treason but the judge expressed disappointment at this, saying that if they had been charged with this then he would have had no problem with sentencing these people to death. So that's 11 innocent people that we nearly killed. I have trouble believing that the amount of people killed by escaped prisoners that decade (or even that century) is greater then the amount of people that would have been killed in that one case. And that's not even taking into account those who would have been killed by the intensification of the conflict that would inevitably have resulted from this execution.

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    Re: Death Penalty in Theory

    Quote Originally Posted by Red_Dave View Post
    Well the last time we had a near miss in so far as executing innocent people can be heard about here Guildford Four and Maguire Seven - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia . At this time the death penalty had been abolished for murder but not for high treason against the crown. Fortunately the prosecution didn't charge these people with high treason but the judge expressed disappointment at this, saying that if they had been charged with this then he would have had no problem with sentencing these people to death. So that's 11 innocent people that we nearly killed. I have trouble believing that the amount of people killed by escaped prisoners that decade (or even that century) is greater then the amount of people that would have been killed in that one case. And that's not even taking into account those who would have been killed by the intensification of the conflict that would inevitably have resulted from this execution.
    Miscarriages of justice will always happen. That doesn't mean you have to abolish justice.

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    Re: Death Penalty in Theory

    Quote Originally Posted by Artevelde View Post
    Miscarriages of justice will always happen. That doesn't mean you have to abolish justice.
    But how is justice not served by a life sentence? (If life means life)

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    Re: Death Penalty in Theory

    Quote Originally Posted by Red_Dave View Post
    But how is justice not served by a life sentence? (If life means life)
    Because for certain crimes it is not the appropriate sentence and because it still leaves great risks to society. Besides really sentencing somebody to life without any possibility of ever being released means you tell him or her that they can commit any crime they want since they have nothing to lose anymore.

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