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Thread: Death Penalty in Theory

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    Re: Death Penalty in Theory

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    You're not really up on your history, are you? Humanity's story is full of retributive massacres.
    Yes, and thankfully a lot of us are less ignorant now.

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    Re: Death Penalty in Theory

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    Yes, and thankfully a lot of us are less ignorant now.
    Or at least you think you are.
    There is nothing demonstrably true that religion can provide the world that cannot be achieved more rationally through entirely secular means.

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    Re: Death Penalty in Theory

    Quote Originally Posted by Cephus View Post
    Or at least you think you are.
    I'm quite sure of it.

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    Re: Death Penalty in Theory

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    I'm quite sure of it.
    I'm quite sure that you're sure of it. It doesn't necessarily make it so.
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    Re: Death Penalty in Theory

    Quote Originally Posted by Cephus View Post
    I'm quite sure that you're sure of it. It doesn't necessarily make it so.
    Insofar as retributive massacres are concerned, we can actually be pretty sure, as the rate of such has declined precipitously over the past few centuries.

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    Re: Death Penalty in Theory

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    Sadly it happens...Its amazing you don't believe it. I will try to find a few names of people who have done it.
    Lies Lies and more Lies....there isn't a single case in the United States of someone sentenced to LWOP that got paroled. There have been cases where DNA has proved people innocent, but ZERO where someone has been released on an LWOP sentence. You are once again perpetuating lies
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    Re: Death Penalty in Theory

    Quote Originally Posted by Cephus View Post
    I'm quite sure that you're sure of it. It doesn't necessarily make it so.
    This is not productive at all.

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    Re: Death Penalty in Theory

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    This is not productive at all.
    I'm not worried about productive, I'm worried about true. You keep making claims based on your emotional desires, not on the demonstrated facts. I keep pointing out that your opinions are your opinions, but they mean nothing to anyone else and you just keep repeating your opinions. You don't have rational discussions by putting out your opinions.
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    Re: Death Penalty in Theory

    Quote Originally Posted by Cephus View Post
    I'm not worried about productive, I'm worried about true. You keep making claims based on your emotional desires, not on the demonstrated facts. I keep pointing out that your opinions are your opinions, but they mean nothing to anyone else and you just keep repeating your opinions. You don't have rational discussions by putting out your opinions.
    Got no idea what you're talking about. I made some factual statements. People do not kill indiscriminately anymore. There is nothing emotional about that. Are you trying to claim that people aren't less ignorant?
    Last edited by ChrisL; 08-30-13 at 08:32 PM.

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    Re: Death Penalty in Theory

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    Got no idea what you're talking about. I made some factual statements. People do not kill indiscriminately anymore. There is nothing emotional about that. Are you trying to claim that people aren't less ignorant?
    Sure then do, there's all kinds of people who kill others in drive-by shootings, etc. In fact, I'd argue that there are a lot more ignorant people out there than there ought to be, given the level of education and science we have access to today.
    There is nothing demonstrably true that religion can provide the world that cannot be achieved more rationally through entirely secular means.

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