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Thread: Death Penalty in Theory

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    Re: Death Penalty in Theory

    Quote Originally Posted by Sig View Post
    Yeah. We have heard this all before.

    One more time: Far more innocent people have died due to the State to NOT executing the death penalty when the convict was genuinely guilty of a capital offense than have died due to the State executing the death penalty when the convict was genuinely innocent of a capital offense.

    The sooner you burn this statistical fact into your brain, the sooner you will stop wasting your time, my time, and everybody's time with this hackneyed bad argument.
    How do you come up with that?

    Even if true I'd argue that it doesn't really matter. The government shouldn't be in the business of killing innocent people, even if killing innocent people has the potential to save lives.

    Edit: Thinking about it more, I'm even more against that line of reasoning. That opens up a huge can of worms about denying innocent people rights for the "greater good." Not something we should be doing.
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    Re: Death Penalty in Theory

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    Nope, but it does assume the law is absolutely right, which it may not be.
    What do you mean, "nope"? Do you mean that it is about emotion even though I say it isn't with regards to my reasoning?
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    Re: Death Penalty in Theory

    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    What do you mean, "nope"? Do you mean that it is about emotion even though I say it isn't with regards to my reasoning?
    I meant that it's not emotional. Sorry, should have been more clear. You can very easily have a non-emotional argument (though I had not yet been presented with such) that revolves around punishment to current law. But it will assume that the law is correct; and it's not always.
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    Re: Death Penalty in Theory

    Quote Originally Posted by AlabamaPaul View Post
    You're right, they should support themselves as they are no longer "kids"...
    They should, but government assistance isn't saying that people shouldn't try to support themselves, unless you also think that charity for the poor is wrong (since they should support themselves).

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    Re: Death Penalty in Theory

    Quote Originally Posted by afr0byte View Post
    They should, but government assistance isn't saying that people shouldn't try to support themselves, unless you also think that charity for the poor is wrong (since they should support themselves).
    I have no issues with private charity, but the government is not, or should not, be in the business of handing out charity...
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    Re: Death Penalty in Theory

    Quote Originally Posted by AlabamaPaul View Post
    I have no issues with private charity, but the government is not, or should not, be in the business of handing out charity...
    See, that's the kind of comment that makes me think you should list yourself as a conservative. You apparently have a problem with government assistance.

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    Re: Death Penalty in Theory

    Quote Originally Posted by afr0byte View Post
    See, that's the kind of comment that makes me think you should list yourself as a conservative. You apparently have a problem with government assistance.
    I see no compelling reason to change my lean because of your thought process. I have many issues with conservatives with the pressing for a balanced budget being chief among those...
    I don't often change my signature, but this was just too over the top to let anyone forget with what this country is up against...
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    Re: Death Penalty in Theory

    Quote Originally Posted by AlabamaPaul View Post
    I see no compelling reason to change my lean because of your thought process. I have many issues with conservatives with the pressing for a balanced budget being chief among those...
    You're obviously free to choose your own lean, but it certainly doesn't seem to jive with what's described as liberal in common public discourse (on here and otherwise).

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    Re: Death Penalty in Theory

    Quote Originally Posted by afr0byte View Post
    You're obviously free to choose your own lean, but it certainly doesn't seem to jive with what's described as liberal in common public discourse (on here and otherwise).
    I'm not here to conform with common public discourse. I post my opinion and hope to engage others in a thoughtful discussion...
    I don't often change my signature, but this was just too over the top to let anyone forget with what this country is up against...
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    Re: Death Penalty in Theory

    Quote Originally Posted by AlabamaPaul View Post
    I'm not here to conform with common public discourse. I post my opinion and hope to engage others in a thoughtful discussion...
    That sounds like "Independent" to me.

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