View Poll Results: Do you support the Death Penalty

Voters
89. You may not vote on this poll
  • I support the Death Penalty

    38 42.70%
  • I Oppose the Death Penalty due to Principle

    27 30.34%
  • I Oppose the Death Penalty due to Practicality

    17 19.10%
  • Other

    7 7.87%
Page 20 of 34 FirstFirst ... 10181920212230 ... LastLast
Results 191 to 200 of 335

Thread: Death Penalty in Theory

  1. #191
    Sage
    Ikari's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2006
    Location
    Colorado
    Last Seen
    12-08-17 @ 01:05 AM
    Gender
    Lean
    Libertarian - Left
    Posts
    54,124

    Re: Death Penalty in Theory

    Quote Originally Posted by AlabamaPaul View Post
    I would suggest a policy where the family, be it direct or extended, is held responsible for a child's rearing, not you, not me, not anyone else...
    Does that mean no tax credits for kids too?
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

    Quote Originally Posted by A. de Tocqueville
    "I should have loved freedom, I believe, at all times, but in the time in which we live I am ready to worship it."

  2. #192
    Sage
    polgara's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2013
    Location
    NE Ohio
    Last Seen
    Today @ 12:32 AM
    Gender
    Lean
    Other
    Posts
    18,348

    Re: Death Penalty in Theory

    Quote Originally Posted by afr0byte View Post
    I'm talking about social issues, primarily. You're OK with going back to segregation?
    Segregation is self-imposed, in many cases, because people like to be around people like themselves. Upward mobility hasn't been a problem for a long time for those that strive for a better life, no matter what color they are. We have laws that guarantee fair housing, as an example. Would you believe that any professional athlete or movie star would be told where they could live? If they have the money, they live where they feel comfortable... around people like themselves, IMO. .

  3. #193
    Pragmatist
    AlabamaPaul's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2013
    Location
    Alabama
    Last Seen
    12-08-17 @ 11:17 AM
    Gender
    Lean
    Liberal
    Posts
    8,834

    Re: Death Penalty in Theory

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    Society says a lot of things, not all of it appropriate. And while punishment is intended to punish, the use of the death penalty is illogical. LWOP is essentially the same punishment as DP without the cost, with the added bonus of giving ample time for innocent people to prove their innocence, and provides just as much security and protection as could be obtained through the DP.

    If society wishes the illogical, is it still necessary to engage such? Remember, this is a Republic, not a pure democracy.
    Oh boy, this opens a whole new discussion...

    We now more resemble a country ruled by unelected jurists rather than any form of republic...
    I don't often change my signature, but this was just too over the top to let anyone forget with what this country is up against...
    Quote Originally Posted by James D Hill View Post
    I am for gay marriage because it ticks off Jesus freaks and social conservatives. Gays are also good voters because the vote for my side so I fight next to them.

  4. #194
    Professor
    afr0byte's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2006
    Location
    A blue state
    Last Seen
    09-12-13 @ 10:29 AM
    Gender
    Lean
    Very Liberal
    Posts
    2,364

    Re: Death Penalty in Theory

    Quote Originally Posted by AlabamaPaul View Post
    I would suggest a policy where the family, be it direct or extended, is held responsible for a child's rearing, not you, not me, not anyone else...
    OK, and again, what about those that don't have family that are willing? It'd be ridiculous to require parents to support their kids in to their 30s+.

  5. #195
    Sage
    Bodhisattva's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2007
    Location
    New Zealand
    Last Seen
    Today @ 04:53 AM
    Lean
    Independent
    Posts
    63,918

    Re: Death Penalty in Theory

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    I know it! So stop reacting emotionally. Wanting to kill people is the pinnacle of being over emotional!
    Deontological Ethics... it has nothing to do with emotion.
    Quote Originally Posted by Bucky View Post
    I have pooped in public, even in public neighborhoods.
    Quote Originally Posted by OldFatGuy View Post
    Usually a gag for wise mouthed insulting little girls. Then some good nylon rope so I can tie them up, toss them in the trunk of my car and forget about them.

  6. #196
    Professor
    afr0byte's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2006
    Location
    A blue state
    Last Seen
    09-12-13 @ 10:29 AM
    Gender
    Lean
    Very Liberal
    Posts
    2,364

    Re: Death Penalty in Theory

    Quote Originally Posted by polgara View Post
    Segregation is self-imposed, in many cases, because people like to be around people like themselves. Upward mobility hasn't been a problem for a long time for those that strive for a better life, no matter what color they are. We have laws that guarantee fair housing, as an example. Would you believe that any professional athlete or movie star would be told where they could live? If they have the money, they live where they feel comfortable... around people like themselves, IMO. .
    Yeah, we didn't have things like the Civil Rights Act in the 50s.

  7. #197
    Sage
    Ikari's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2006
    Location
    Colorado
    Last Seen
    12-08-17 @ 01:05 AM
    Gender
    Lean
    Libertarian - Left
    Posts
    54,124

    Re: Death Penalty in Theory

    Quote Originally Posted by AlabamaPaul View Post
    Oh boy, this opens a whole new discussion...

    We now more resemble a country ruled by unelected jurists rather than any form of republic...
    I'm not going to disagree on that; yet does it address the fundamental question? I think not.
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

    Quote Originally Posted by A. de Tocqueville
    "I should have loved freedom, I believe, at all times, but in the time in which we live I am ready to worship it."

  8. #198
    Sage
    Bodhisattva's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2007
    Location
    New Zealand
    Last Seen
    Today @ 04:53 AM
    Lean
    Independent
    Posts
    63,918

    Re: Death Penalty in Theory

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    Indeed it is. Most arguments I see in favor of the DP are rather emotional. It doesn't consider the pitfalls of the system, the cost not only in dollars but in human life, the proper constraints of government, and the necessity for the DP in our modern society.
    Deontological Ethics... it has nothing to do with emotion.
    Quote Originally Posted by Bucky View Post
    I have pooped in public, even in public neighborhoods.
    Quote Originally Posted by OldFatGuy View Post
    Usually a gag for wise mouthed insulting little girls. Then some good nylon rope so I can tie them up, toss them in the trunk of my car and forget about them.

  9. #199
    Pragmatist
    AlabamaPaul's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2013
    Location
    Alabama
    Last Seen
    12-08-17 @ 11:17 AM
    Gender
    Lean
    Liberal
    Posts
    8,834

    Re: Death Penalty in Theory

    Quote Originally Posted by afr0byte View Post
    OK, and again, what about those that don't have family that are willing? It'd be ridiculous to require parents to support their kids in to their 30s+.
    You're right, they should support themselves as they are no longer "kids"...
    I don't often change my signature, but this was just too over the top to let anyone forget with what this country is up against...
    Quote Originally Posted by James D Hill View Post
    I am for gay marriage because it ticks off Jesus freaks and social conservatives. Gays are also good voters because the vote for my side so I fight next to them.

  10. #200
    Sage
    Ikari's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2006
    Location
    Colorado
    Last Seen
    12-08-17 @ 01:05 AM
    Gender
    Lean
    Libertarian - Left
    Posts
    54,124

    Re: Death Penalty in Theory

    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    Deontological Ethics... it has nothing to do with emotion.
    Nope, but it does assume the law is absolutely right, which it may not be.
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

    Quote Originally Posted by A. de Tocqueville
    "I should have loved freedom, I believe, at all times, but in the time in which we live I am ready to worship it."

Page 20 of 34 FirstFirst ... 10181920212230 ... LastLast

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •