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Thread: Death Penalty in Theory

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    Re: Death Penalty in Theory

    Quote Originally Posted by afr0byte View Post
    Provide more information. I'll give you an answer. Knowing where the families went could mean many things.
    Where did your support come from while growing up? Was it the government or your family? We're off topic, but what the hell...
    I don't often change my signature, but this was just too over the top to let anyone forget with what this country is up against...
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    Re: Death Penalty in Theory

    Quote Originally Posted by AlabamaPaul View Post
    Where did your support come from while growing up? Was it the government or your family? We're off topic, but what the hell...
    Mine came from my family. Not everyone has a family to support them (or at least one that can/is willing), hence government assistance.

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    Re: Death Penalty in Theory

    Quote Originally Posted by AlabamaPaul View Post
    Exactly...
    And while I may not disagree with your assessment on the overall health and activity of society; I don't think that translates into a higher death penalty rate.

    As I said, more money, more innocents dead, no added benefit to society; no one in favor of the DP has yet been able to address that. Maybe the money, but you can't (or perhaps rather it has yet to be) address that without exacerbating the others.
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    Re: Death Penalty in Theory

    Quote Originally Posted by afr0byte View Post
    Mine came from my family. Not everyone has a family to support them (or at least one that can/is willing), hence government assistance.
    Don't you think it would be wise to address this issue rather than continuing to support it?
    I don't often change my signature, but this was just too over the top to let anyone forget with what this country is up against...
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    Re: Death Penalty in Theory

    Quote Originally Posted by RGacky3 View Post
    The goal of the justice system is to protect society ... Not to Punish sins. No one has the right to take a life, and no one has the right to judge whether or not someone has a right to live, the point is to make sure society is protected.
    Well said my friend. Now I don't have to explain my point of view.
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    Re: Death Penalty in Theory

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    And while I may not disagree with your assessment on the overall health and activity of society; I don't think that translates into a higher death penalty rate.

    As I said, more money, more innocents dead, no added benefit to society; no one in favor of the DP has yet been able to address that. Maybe the money, but you can't (or perhaps rather it has yet to be) address that without exacerbating the others.
    Society has decided the penalty is appropriate for certain crimes and is a benefit. A sentence isn't intended to benefit society; it's intended to punish the criminal...
    I don't often change my signature, but this was just too over the top to let anyone forget with what this country is up against...
    Quote Originally Posted by James D Hill View Post
    I am for gay marriage because it ticks off Jesus freaks and social conservatives. Gays are also good voters because the vote for my side so I fight next to them.

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    Re: Death Penalty in Theory

    Quote Originally Posted by Anagram View Post
    In my opinion the difference in punishment between death and life in prison is not worth the chance of wrongful execution, which seems to be significant.
    Yeah. We have heard this all before.

    One more time: Far more innocent people have died due to the State to NOT executing the death penalty when the convict was genuinely guilty of a capital offense than have died due to the State executing the death penalty when the convict was genuinely innocent of a capital offense.

    The sooner you burn this statistical fact into your brain, the sooner you will stop wasting your time, my time, and everybody's time with this hackneyed bad argument.
    It's like you're dreaming of Gorgonzola when it's clearly Brie time, baby. Step into my office.

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    Re: Death Penalty in Theory

    Quote Originally Posted by AlabamaPaul View Post
    Don't you think it would be wise to address this issue rather than continuing to support it?
    I never said we shouldn't try to solve the issue. Do you propose we let the child and their parent die, or resort to crime?

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    Re: Death Penalty in Theory

    Quote Originally Posted by afr0byte View Post
    I never said we shouldn't try to solve the issue. Do you propose we let the child and their parent die, or resort to crime?
    I would suggest a policy where the family, be it direct or extended, is held responsible for a child's rearing, not you, not me, not anyone else...
    I don't often change my signature, but this was just too over the top to let anyone forget with what this country is up against...
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    Re: Death Penalty in Theory

    Quote Originally Posted by AlabamaPaul View Post
    Society has decided the penalty is appropriate for certain crimes and is a benefit. A sentence isn't intended to benefit society; it's intended to punish the criminal...
    Society says a lot of things, not all of it appropriate. And while punishment is intended to punish, the use of the death penalty is illogical. LWOP is essentially the same punishment as DP without the cost, with the added bonus of giving ample time for innocent people to prove their innocence, and provides just as much security and protection as could be obtained through the DP.

    If society wishes the illogical, is it still necessary to engage such? Remember, this is a Republic, not a pure democracy.
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