View Poll Results: Welfare: Keep, Reform or End?

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  • Keep it!

    19 24.05%
  • Keep it, but it needs SEVERE reform.

    38 48.10%
  • End it

    15 18.99%
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    7 8.86%
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Thread: Welfare: Keep, Reform or End?

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    Re: Welfare: Keep, Reform or End?

    Quote Originally Posted by John Liberty View Post
    I say we severely reform it. I'm all for helping people out...when they NEED it.

    Some issues with our current state of welfare:
    -Welfare is way too easy to get. There are too many people that are far from needing welfare.

    -Welfare pays too much. Welfare is supposed to be just enough to keep you alive, welfare is not supposed to be comfortable! If it's comfortable than where is the initiative to go out and work?

    -Welfare lasts too long. Welfare should be there just enough to help you get back on your feet.

    -The "Obamaphone" welfare program gets its own section. There are a lot of things wrong with people getting phones from welfare programs. If you can't figure out why, then you will never get it.
    Welfare is not easy to get. My sister is on welfare. She has to wait on hold for hours to sometimes get hung up on instead of reaching an operator. One tiny error in the paperwork, and failure to notify her of her error, cost her months of food stamps. And it isn't comfortable. My sister brings in about $250 in food stamps for 4 people. I guess if all they ate was rice it would be fine. And as far as it lasting too long, the second she reports her sons income, he started his new job a week ago, she will lose that $250 even though he only makes minimum wage and shouldn't be expected to pay his mothers bills.
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    Re: Welfare: Keep, Reform or End?

    Well, this is a model city for the War on Poverty. Whether or not the Democrats drove this city down the tubes shouldn't matter, the War on Poverty programs should have been there to help this city from sinking to such depths of helplessness. If it weren't for all of the government subsidies going to Detroit over the years, the citizens would have to do things for themselves, and I guarantee that there would be many more businesses and many more citizens working with much better kept up neighborhoods. The citizens would have much more respect for their city because they would be building it themselves.

    And why did industry leave Detroit, there are tons of factories and machine shops in the suburbs?

    If you answer, I'll have to reply tomorrow as I'm going to sleep now. Goodnight C.A., good talk.

    Quote Originally Posted by Captain Adverse View Post
    Soooo, this means what? A city dies because industry leaves and no business comes in to replace it. That's the fault of the citizens? Please explain how showing me poverty which supports a need for welfare programs somehow supports your position they would do better begging for charity.

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    Re: Welfare: Keep, Reform or End?

    Quote Originally Posted by JC Callender View Post
    There has never been or never will be full employment, but I would say 4.4% is pretty low, and we had that back in 2007. Michigan, a very automated state, had a 3.4% unemployment rate in early 2000.
    Automation and outsourcing increase every year. From 2000 to 2007 there were many construction jobs from the great housing farce of that era. When those jobs went away, it was hard to replace them. Even housing is becoming more kit-like, the progress in robots is pretty significant, they already help replace spies and what job do you get if you're a laid off spy? So, I doubt you'll ever see 3.8% again unless we have another national mental breakdown or are saved by a new pet rock.

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    Re: Welfare: Keep, Reform or End?

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    There has never been and ever be full employment. Get unemployment down to around 4%.
    I was asked to define full employment. I said that meant everybody had a job. Are you disagreeing?

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    Re: Welfare: Keep, Reform or End?

    Quote Originally Posted by GhostlyJoe View Post
    Let's put all the old people on medicare in detention camps -- meager rations and little else for the dependent classes.
    No I'd abolish Medicare altogether, but I enjoyed your appeal to ridicule.

    Quote Originally Posted by Juanita View Post
    OMG people---why don't we just send them all to jail....
    Ghostly Joe's appeal to ridicule is more clever than this one.

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    Re: Welfare: Keep, Reform or End?

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    There has never been and ever be full employment. Get unemployment down to around 4%.
    Bureau of Labor Statistics Data ← fer christ's sake click that
    don't confuse them with grown up facts, yeah believe it or not we were nearly at 'full employment' back in the days of boosh yanno ancient times
    2006 to half way through 2008 and I snapped this pic at the gas pump cuz I knew I'd never see this kinda thang again
    (Dec-15th 2008)

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    Re: Welfare: Keep, Reform or End?

    Quote Originally Posted by Neomalthusian View Post
    No I'd abolish Medicare altogether
    you won't have long to wait, I recall reading it on page 792 paragraph 3 in the Affordable Care Act
    "forthwith all old folks will be turned into soylent green"

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    Re: Welfare: Keep, Reform or End?

    Quote Originally Posted by AngryOldGuy View Post
    you won't have long to wait, I recall reading it on page 792 paragraph 3 in the Affordable Care Act
    "forthwith all old folks will be turned into soylent green"
    You make that sound like a bad thing?

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    Re: Welfare: Keep, Reform or End?

    TOL since your return you've lost your spark
    we haven't anything to worry about the government will see to all our needs cradle to grave
    just get used to the new normal, Ingsoc demands the complete submission – mental, moral and physical

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    Re: Welfare: Keep, Reform or End?

    Yes, of course, let's throw the disabled under the bus as well.

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