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    Re: Should We Accommodate Immigrants?

    Quote Originally Posted by Wiseone View Post
    Like I said, language should be taught from the earliest possible grades and students/parents should have a choice beyond Spainish. If someone learns French in high school, that's awesome, there's no downside to being bilingual whether its Spainish, French, German, or like myself Chinese.
    Where did you pick up Chinese? (Mandarin, I imagine?) I was thinking of taking a semester or two as electives but will probably decide against it because as an engineer pretty much any factory or service that I call in China will speak English.

    Do you think there's any reason at all to learn it? And do you think 1-2 semesters would even be worth it?
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    Re: Should We Accommodate Immigrants?

    I agree that English or "American" as it was put, should be considered the United States of America's language.

    I agree that for a person to become a citizen they must first be proficient, (at least on a third grade level), in English or "American".

    This belief is one of the things that separates me from Liberals and keeps me as an Independent.
    But before those of you on the left want to slam me too hard, consider the rest of my views:

    I also believe strongly in Immigration.
    I believe in total amnesty for any illegals that wish to learn English, pay taxes, have no criminal record, and etc.
    I view myself as an Immigrant and I view my ancestors that fought in the American Revolution as immigrants.
    I view all people that are not Native American Indians, as immigrants.

    I simply do not believe in having future immigrants become citizens if they are unwilling to learn the native language.
    To be clear, I would also expect anyone that is already a citizen to be grandfathered in.

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    Re: Should We Accommodate Immigrants?

    Quote Originally Posted by John Liberty View Post
    Should we accommodate immigrants? I ask this because I see so many multilingual signs. Also Spanish is a mandatory subject in public schools. Even my delivery boxes and product instructions are multilingual. What do you think?

    I voted No. I think that if they come to America that they need to learn to speak American. If you go to other countries (most) of them don't have multilingual signs in American. We have to learn basic words when we want to vacation in Europe or Asia.

    I voted no.Immigrants do not have to speak like a grammar fag/nazi, nor do they have to get a degree in English. I do however expect immigrants to learn enough English to be proficient in it. Our signs should be in English, our government business should be done in English and their should be no bilingual forms.
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    Re: Should We Accommodate Immigrants?

    Quote Originally Posted by RabidAlpaca View Post
    Where did you pick up Chinese? (Mandarin, I imagine?) I was thinking of taking a semester or two as electives but will probably decide against it because as an engineer pretty much any factory or service that I call in China will speak English.

    Do you think there's any reason at all to learn it? And do you think 1-2 semesters would even be worth it?
    I picked up Chinese in college, took four semesters and studied abroad for 5 months, my degree program required a foreign language and my school only offered Spainish, Arabic, and Chinese and I picked Chinese because all my Army buddies were picking Arabic, so I wanted to be different. Since then I've kept up with it off and on, studying on my own, I have to admit my speaking and listening abilities aren't what they used to be because I have no one to talk to but my reading and writting continue to improve.

    I think one or two semesters would be worth it, but in my experience nothing beats the real thing. My first trip to China lasted 6 weeks and I swear I learned more than I learned in the two semesters prior to that trip. And not only did I learn more but what I did learn stuck with me, its one thing to do a classroom exercise where you and a partner pretend to buy a train ticket or order a meal, but actually doing it, using the words you learned, listening to this total stranger talk back to you, and then amazingly the food you orders appears or those train tickets slide across the counter, that experience solidifies the language into your brain like no classroom can. You now have a memory and an experience to associate with those words, they are no longer just abstract concepts in your head, that's the most important thing.

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    Re: Should We Accommodate Immigrants?

    Quote Originally Posted by Spriggs05 View Post
    American Accent and Dialect yes. Better let Microsoft know.
    Right, the american version of English as a specific individual language, it does not exist.


    Or do I as a Canadian speak English or American or Canadian
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    Re: Should We Accommodate Immigrants?

    Quote Originally Posted by Lord Tammerlain View Post
    Right, the american version of English as a specific individual language, it does not exist.


    Or do I as a Canadian speak English or American or Canadian
    Damn you speak three languages, that's pretty impressive.

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    Re: Should We Accommodate Immigrants?

    Quote Originally Posted by Lord Tammerlain View Post
    Right, the american version of English as a specific individual language, it does not exist.


    Or do I as a Canadian speak English or American or Canadian
    You speak the Canadian Dialect of the English Language.
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    Re: Should We Accommodate Immigrants?

    Quote Originally Posted by Lord Tammerlain View Post
    Operative words being English and language.

    There is no american language
    Wikipedia...nice source (sarcasm)

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    Re: Should We Accommodate Immigrants?

    Quote Originally Posted by Wiseone View Post
    Like I said, language should be taught from the earliest possible grades and students/parents should have a choice beyond Spainish. If someone learns French in high school, that's awesome, there's no downside to being bilingual whether its Spainish, French, German, or like myself Chinese.
    Agreed.

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    Re: Should We Accommodate Immigrants?

    Quote Originally Posted by Spriggs05 View Post
    You speak the Canadian Dialect of the English Language.
    Which is exactly what I have been saying
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