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    Re: Should We Accommodate Immigrants?

    Operative words being English and language.

    There is no american language
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    Re: Should We Accommodate Immigrants?

    Quote Originally Posted by Manc Skipper View Post
    Firstly dates back to the 1500's in English, and like lastly, is archaic and rarely seen in everyday usage in England today.
    I don't know if I'd call it archaic, it appears all over the BBC

    BBC - Search results for firstly

    So does lastly

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    Re: Should We Accommodate Immigrants?

    Quote Originally Posted by Lord Tammerlain View Post
    Operative words being English and language.

    There is no american language
    His own source contradicts him:

    British English (BrE) is the form of English used in the United Kingdom. It includes all English dialects used in the United Kingdom.
    American English (AmE) is the form of English used in the United States. It includes all English dialects used in the United States.
    Clearly calls them dialects and forms of English, ie the same language.

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    Re: Should We Accommodate Immigrants?

    Quote Originally Posted by Lord Tammerlain View Post
    There is no american language
    American Accent and Dialect yes. Better let Microsoft know.
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    Re: Should We Accommodate Immigrants?

    Quote Originally Posted by Wiseone View Post
    If you refuse to educate yourself because you think knowledge is "politically correct" that's fine, but don't rob other people of the chance to learn something while you're at it.
    The two most important languages to be fluent in are English and French. If you know these two languages you can go to almost any where in the world and get by.

    English is the language of aviation, maritime and trade. Listen to an airport control tower in Tokyo, Moscow or Paris, they are speaking in English on the radios.

    Call almost any manufacture in China and when the receptionist answerers the phone, start speaking in English and she will start speaking in English.

    Go to Tijuana and you'll find more Mexicans who speak English than you will in Los Angeles. In fact you'll hear more English being spoken in TJ than in L.A.

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    Re: Should We Accommodate Immigrants?

    Quote Originally Posted by Wiseone View Post
    If "English" and "American" are two separate languages that would mean you're bilingual, does anyone feel they can say they speak two languages because they know that in London an apartment is called a flat and an elevator is called a lift?

    Give me a break, a few differences in spelling, definitions, and pronunciation does not make it a separate language. No more than "Southern" is its own language.
    George Bernard Shaw is frequently quoted for his "two nations separated by a common language" quip. One language but different usage. Many journal editors specify "American English," and that's exactly the term they use.

    And the Brits are concerned too: Lickety splits: two nations divided by a common language | Mind your language | Media | theguardian.com

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    Re: Should We Accommodate Immigrants?

    Quote Originally Posted by APACHERAT View Post
    The two most important languages to be fluent in are English and French. If you know these two languages you can go to almost any where in the world and get by.

    English is the language of aviation, maritime and trade. List to an airport control tower in Tokyo, Moscow or Paris, they are speaking in English on the radios.

    Call almost any manufacture in China and when the receptionist answerers the phone, start speaking in English and she will start speaking in English.

    Go to Tijuana and you'll find more Mexicans who speak English than you will in Los Angeles. In fact you'll hear more English being spoken in TJ than in L.A.
    Like I said, language should be taught from the earliest possible grades and students/parents should have a choice beyond Spainish. If someone learns French in high school, that's awesome, there's no downside to being bilingual whether its Spainish, French, German, or like myself Chinese.

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    Re: Should We Accommodate Immigrants?

    Quote Originally Posted by nota bene View Post
    George Bernard Shaw is frequently quoted for his "two nations separated by a common language" quip. One language but different usage. Many journal editors specify "American English," and that's exactly the term they use.

    And the Brits are concerned too: Lickety splits: two nations divided by a common language | Mind your language | Media | theguardian.com
    American English, is still English.

    Seriously, unless you're going to tell me that you're bilingual because you speak American and English and do it with a straight face there's no discussion to be had.

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    Re: Should We Accommodate Immigrants?

    Quote Originally Posted by John Liberty View Post
    Should we accommodate immigrants? I ask this because I see so many multilingual signs. Also Spanish is a mandatory subject in public schools. Even my delivery boxes and product instructions are multilingual. What do you think?

    I voted No. I think that if they come to America that they need to learn to speak American. If you go to other countries (most) of them don't have multilingual signs in American. We have to learn basic words when we want to vacation in Europe or Asia.
    First of all, if an area is a draw to tourists, they should absolutely accommodate the tourists to encourage them to come and spend their money.

    If an area has a high immigrant population for some other reason, it is for that community to decide. The community should consider that immigrants may not suddenly learn English just because the community would prefer not to have bilingual signs, menus, etc.
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    Re: Should We Accommodate Immigrants?

    Quote Originally Posted by Wiseone View Post
    American English, is still English.

    Seriously, unless you're going to tell me that you're bilingual because you speak American and English and do it with a straight face there's no discussion to be had.
    I'm sorry that this is so complicated for you. I've specified one language/separate usage. USAGE.

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