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Thread: Secrecy ... vote and tell me what you think.

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    Re: Secrecy ... vote and tell me what you think.

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    I believe government is a necessary evil, as such I believe that the only thing the government should be allowed to keep a few secrets.Like troop movements during a time of war or maybe a raid on a wanted criminal's house. However on the same token Manning should have the book thrown at him,
    Manning revealed war crimes in Iraq. Those responsible in the government should be brought to justice.
    "Not learning from mistakes is worse than committing mistakes. When you don't allow yourself to make mistakes, it is hard to be tolerant of others and it does not allow even God to be merciful."

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    Re: Secrecy ... vote and tell me what you think.

    Quote Originally Posted by German guy View Post
    Manning revealed war crimes in Iraq. Those responsible in the government should be brought to justice.
    He also revealed what our diplomats think of our allies when they are in private.

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    Re: Secrecy ... vote and tell me what you think.

    Quote Originally Posted by German guy View Post
    Well, considering your "the government is always right" attitude, I assume your German is very good at least.
    That is not my attitude, and it is not the article's attitude, and whether or not I speak German is irrelevant.

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    Re: Secrecy ... vote and tell me what you think.

    Governments are untrustworthy entities and are necessary evils.So there is only a few things they should be allowed to keep secret. Meetings between governments and diplomats should never be secret.Investigations should never be kept secret. Operations outside of war should not be secret. Troop movements in a time of war in a country we are at war with should be secret.
    "A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself. For the traitor appears not a traitor; he speaks in accents familiar to his victims, and he wears their face and their arguments, he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation, he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of the city, he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murder is less to fear"

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    Re: Secrecy ... vote and tell me what you think.

    I will only vote if this poll is Secret!!

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