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    Has obama brought the races together[W:225]

    In another thread someone tried to tell me Obama has united the races. His sole argument for this was that whites voted for him. IMO Obama has made race relations even worse and has squandered a golden opportunity to bring this country together with his divisive statements and the way he has inserted himself into various race related issues in a Sharpton, Jackson like fashion. I'm curious what others think and why.

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    Re: Has obama brought the races together

    Quote Originally Posted by sawyerloggingon View Post
    In another thread someone tried to tell me Obama has united the races. His sole argument for this was that whites voted for him. IMO Obama has made race relations even worse and has squandered a golden opportunity to bring this country together with his divisive statements and the way he has inserted himself into various race related issues in a Sharpton, Jackson like fashion. I'm curious what others think and why.
    In a country where people still hate and fear blacks, especially black men, how exactly was he supposed to bring us together? Even before he was elected the overt racists here were screaming for his head. What he eventually has to do, in high profile race cases, is make some sort of statement. That's not inserting himself, and I'm quite sure that's the last thing he wants to have to do.

    We are still a racist country. Obama can't fix that and frankly, that's not his job either.

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    Re: Has obama brought the races together

    It sounds awfully desperate when people compare Obama to Al Sharpton.

    You might as well compare Mitt Romney to Fred Phelps.
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    Re: Has obama brought the races together

    Obama make everything worse!


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    Re: Has obama brought the races together

    Obama's effect on race relations is more complex than "did he bring races closer or pusher them farther apart?" His mere presence and his actual behavior have had several, sometimes conflicting effects on people of various races.

    1. His mere election to the office of the President has been inspiring to many, especially black Americans.

    2. His mere election to the presidency also caused people to overstate the progress we've made with racism in this country. Because of those overstatements, many people, particularly black and other non-white, Americans became frustrated with the mostly white people downplaying racism.

    3. His mere election was taken poorly by many white racists who attacked his race directly or indirectly by invoking stereotypes in their political criticisms and by speaking to him and about him as whites have historically talked down to black people.

    4. His comments about race and events like the killing of Trayvon Martin have been welcomed by many, especially black and other non-white, Americans. Indeed, those speeches have made many of them feel that they finally have a voice in such a high office. Such comments have also rubbed many people, especially white conservatives, the wrong way because they feel that Obama is attacking white people.

    In other words, he - as an individual - hasn't really brought races closer or pushed them farther apart. His presence and his actions have had many effects.

    The important thing, however, to remember is that many of the reactions people have had to Obama and his behavior in terms of race are more indicative of their attitudes towards race than indicative of anything Obama did. That's why attempts to hold Obama responsible for negative feelings many white people feel towards his comments about race are inappropriate. For instance, when Obama made his recent speech on racism after the Zimmerman trial, many white conservatives claimed that Obama caused racial discord. However, it's not that he was causing racial discord. It's that many racist, delusional white conservatives were uncomfortable with what Obama said.

    In sum, what I'm saying is that one should be careful not to make the mistake of holding Obama responsible for people's responses to him.
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    Re: Has obama brought the races together

    Quote Originally Posted by TiredOfLife View Post
    In a country where people still hate and fear blacks, especially black men, how exactly was he supposed to bring us together? Even before he was elected the overt racists here were screaming for his head. What he eventually has to do, in high profile race cases, is make some sort of statement. That's not inserting himself, and I'm quite sure that's the last thing he wants to have to do.

    We are still a racist country. Obama can't fix that and frankly, that's not his job either.
    What high profile case has he had to make a statement on? He has made statements on cases that are not racially charged and then creates a racial charge.....
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    Re: Has obama brought the races together

    Quote Originally Posted by ThePlayDrive View Post
    Obama's effect on race relations is more complex than "did he bring races closer or pusher them farther apart?" His mere presence and his actual behavior have had several, sometimes conflicting effects on people of various races.

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    In sum, what I'm saying is that one should be careful not to make the mistake of holding Obama responsible for people's responses to him.
    Well said! Obama himself has done very little to affect race relations. But his presence has made the racists shout a whole lot louder and better illuminated already existing race problems.
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    Re: Has obama brought the races together

    In my view, Obama hasn't done all that much to repair or worsen race relations.

    The same can't be said for his supporters and minions. Why, even here on this forum, it seems that no matter what the topic liberals will very frequently inject race into the thread...for no other purpose, it seems, than to stifle discussion of the topic of the thread. The same is done by the media, activists and Obama administration members. I see it as a tactic to stifle anyone opposed to whatever topic that particular liberal doesn't want to deal with.

    The bad thing about Obama is that he doesn't do what he can to reduce this sort of thing...even though he is in a unique position to do so.

    Oh...and before y'all get all excited, no...I don't think Obama should say anything directly about our forum members who use this tactic. He could, however, make general statements about those who play the race card at any opportunity, be it in the media, online or in general conversation.

    All he has to do is take a stand and lead...but we all know how hard it is for him to do that.
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    Re: Has obama brought the races together

    While he has interjected himself into a couple issues that he should have left alone, primarily for the dignity of the office, I feel that he has actually been pretty restrained and overall pretty reasonable. I don't think he has done anything to make things either worse or better.
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    Re: Has obama brought the races together

    Quote Originally Posted by davidtaylorjr View Post
    What high profile case has he had to make a statement on? He has made statements on cases that are not racially charged and then creates a racial charge.....
    I don't think its fair to accuse Obama of giving Martin/Zimmerman its racial overtones, that was there straight from the start and its left-wing punditry we have to thank for that.

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