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    Re: Has obama brought the races together

    Quote Originally Posted by TiredOfLife View Post
    In a country where people still hate and fear blacks, especially black men, how exactly was he supposed to bring us together? Even before he was elected the overt racists here were screaming for his head. What he eventually has to do, in high profile race cases, is make some sort of statement. That's not inserting himself, and I'm quite sure that's the last thing he wants to have to do.

    We are still a racist country. Obama can't fix that and frankly, that's not his job either.
    Racist country? For real? Please.

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    Re: Has obama brought the races together

    Quote Originally Posted by AlabamaPaul View Post
    I'm dealing in reality, not implications...
    The reality is that politics is about coalition building...which means addressing the concerns of different factions withing your base. If you think that the Republican party doesn't pander to old white folks in this nation you're crazy. The only difference between their pandering now and 30 years ago is that demographic won't be enough to win elections in the near future.
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    Re: Has obama brought the races together

    Quote Originally Posted by AlabamaPaul View Post
    I'm dealing in reality, not implications...
    Great. I'm talking about the fact that conservatives tend to not acknowledge the reality of racial issues of this country. I'm not sure how you think the above relates to that, but it seems pretty irrelevant.

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    Re: Has obama brought the races together

    Quote Originally Posted by iliveonramen View Post
    It was a racially charged event. His Dept of Justice prosecuted the officers on Civil rights violations.....


    Bwahaha...so racism didn't exist in "real life" in the past 100 years? I guess the Jim Crow south was communist propaganda.



    Bizarre you quote Hoover on race. He also believed the Civil rights movement was a communist plot. They threatened MLK on multiple occasions and tried to black mail him. Seems like your kind of guy....


    Yeah...I'm the one in denial!
    Here's another:

    In the book A Racial Program for the Twentieth Century, published in 1913 by Israel Cohen of the Fabian Society (a follow-up to Zangwill's play The Melting Pot), he wrote:

    "We must realize that our Party's most powerful weapon is racial tension. By propounding into the consciousness of the dark races, that for centuries have been oppressed by the whites, we can mold them to the program of the Communist Party ... In America, we will aim for subtle victory.

    While inflaming the Negro minority against the Whites, we will instill in the Whites a guilt complex for the exploitation of the Negroes. We will aid the Negroes to rise to prominence in every walk of life, in the professions, and in the world of sports and entertainment. With this prestige, the Negroes will be able to intermarry with the Whites, and begin a process which will deliver America to our cause."

    And another:

    In 1922, the Russian Comintern provided $300,000 for the spreading of communist propaganda among Negroes. In 1925, the Communist Party U.S.A. told its members:

    "The aim of our Party in our work among the Negro masses is to create a powerful proletarian movement which will fight and lead the struggle of the Negro race against the exploitation and oppression in every form and which will be a militant part of the revolutionary movement of the whole American working class ... and connect them with the struggles of national minorities and colonial peoples of all the world and thereby the cause of world revolution and the dictatorship of the proletariat."

    What they heck are people on the Right suppose to think about this? These are the words of your party.

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    Re: Has obama brought the races together

    Quote Originally Posted by iliveonramen View Post
    The reality is that politics is about coalition building...which means addressing the concerns of different factions withing your base. If you think that the Republican party doesn't pander to old white folks in this nation you're crazy. The only difference between their pandering now and 30 years ago is that demographic won't be enough to win elections in the near future.
    No, this is what it has become, but politics is about ideas and principles. My guess is that you might be too young to remember this...
    I don't often change my signature, but this was just too over the top to let anyone forget with what this country is up against...
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    Re: Has obama brought the races together

    Quote Originally Posted by ThePlayDrive View Post
    Great. I'm talking about the fact that conservatives tend to not acknowledge the reality of racial issues of this country. I'm not sure how you think the above relates to that, but it seems pretty irrelevant.
    What are these racial issues?
    I don't often change my signature, but this was just too over the top to let anyone forget with what this country is up against...
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    Re: Has obama brought the races together

    Quote Originally Posted by iliveonramen View Post
    The reality is that politics is about coalition building...which means addressing the concerns of different factions withing your base. If you think that the Republican party doesn't pander to old white folks in this nation you're crazy. The only difference between their pandering now and 30 years ago is that demographic won't be enough to win elections in the near future.
    Republicans pander to people who are interested in looking within themselves for change and progress. This tends to cater to the financially established (i.e. "old white folks"). Now, when it comes to social change, Republicans are less interested in change and progress.

    Democrats pander to people who have a mob mentality, who look for someone to blame, and who look to get everything while doing nothing. They're a party of smoke and mirrors.

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    Re: Has obama brought the races together

    Quote Originally Posted by AlabamaPaul View Post
    What are these racial issues?
    1. The extent of racial discrimination in housing, the justice system, education and almost every other aspect of our society. (Conservatives often just straight up ignore this reality.)

    2. The experiences non-white Americans have with racism, prejudice and racial ignorance. (Conservatives usually dismiss attempts to talk about those realities by calling them "race baiting" or "pulling the race card.")

    3. The influence of historical and current racial inequality on lack of education, crime and other problems in the black population. (Conservatives usually dismiss discussions about this reality by calling it an "excuse" and pointing to "a lack of personal responsibility".)

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    Re: Has obama brought the races together

    Quote Originally Posted by WCH View Post

    What they heck are people on the Right suppose to think about this? These are the words of your party.
    I'm not nor have I ever been a member of the Communist party...that's usually what you conservatives like to hear right?

    In the book A Racial Program for the Twentieth Century, published in 1913 by Israel Cohen of the Fabian Society (a follow-up to Zangwill's play The Melting Pot), he wrote:

    "We must realize that our Party's most powerful weapon is racial tension. By propounding into the consciousness of the dark races, that for centuries have been oppressed by the whites, we can mold them to the program of the Communist Party ... In America, we will aim for subtle victory.

    While inflaming the Negro minority against the Whites, we will instill in the Whites a guilt complex for the exploitation of the Negroes. We will aid the Negroes to rise to prominence in every walk of life, in the professions, and in the world of sports and entertainment. With this prestige, the Negroes will be able to intermarry with the Whites, and begin a process which will deliver America to our cause."
    That is a ****ing hoax dude. It was a letter to the editor of the Washington Star. The Washington Star later apologized and said it was printed without verifying it's authenticity. It's Congressional record because a follow up by the Star read by a Rep from NY shows no Israel Cohen existed, and there was never a book with that title. It was used by a southern Mississippi Rep in a debate against the Civil Rights Act. Claiming that Civil rights was a communist plot was a common tactic by southern racist during the era. I'm hoping you posted that in ignorance!
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    Re: Has obama brought the races together

    Quote Originally Posted by ThePlayDrive View Post
    1. The extent of racial discrimination in housing, the justice system, education and almost every other aspect of our society. (Conservatives often just straight up ignore this reality.)

    2. The experiences non-white Americans have with racism, prejudice and racial ignorance. (Conservatives usually dismiss attempts to talk about those realities by calling them "race baiting" or "pulling the race card.")

    3. The influence of historical and current racial inequality on lack of education, crime and other problems in the black population. (Conservatives usually dismiss discussions about this reality by calling it an "excuse" and pointing to "a lack of personal responsibility".)
    Which party continues to harp on these issues as a basis to advance its agenda. You see, once race is removed from the equation, you then need to deal with the underlying issues...
    I don't often change my signature, but this was just too over the top to let anyone forget with what this country is up against...
    Quote Originally Posted by James D Hill View Post
    I am for gay marriage because it ticks off Jesus freaks and social conservatives. Gays are also good voters because the vote for my side so I fight next to them.

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