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    Re: Has obama brought the races together

    Quote Originally Posted by WCH View Post
    Other POTUSs haven't injected themselves into these sort of issues. Feel free to give me an example if you can think of one.
    Off the top of my head....Bush was "sickened" by the beating of Rodney King. After the officers were found innocent the Department of Justice indicted the officers for violations of civil rights.

    I know though...that was sooooo long ago and don't let reality get between your rightwing narrative.
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    Re: Has obama brought the races together

    Quote Originally Posted by WCH View Post
    Other POTUSs haven't publicly acknowledged having a 'chip on their shoulder' because to their mixed race status or admitted to hiding his 'Whiteness' from other while growing up.
    He said those things in the context of describing old attitudes that he learned to overcome.

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    Re: Has obama brought the races together

    Quote Originally Posted by Hard Truth View Post
    He said those things in the context of describing old attitudes that he learned to overcome.
    His actions and demeanor speak otherwise.

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    Re: Has obama brought the races together

    Quote Originally Posted by TiredOfLife View Post
    In a country where people still hate and fear blacks, especially black men, how exactly was he supposed to bring us together? Even before he was elected the overt racists here were screaming for his head. What he eventually has to do, in high profile race cases, is make some sort of statement. That's not inserting himself, and I'm quite sure that's the last thing he wants to have to do.

    We are still a racist country. Obama can't fix that and frankly, that's not his job either.
    You mean the same Obama that specifically used racism as a means to get elected in the first place? His first campaign was based around the novelty of a black man getting into the White House, it encouraged minorities to get you and vote for Obama because he was black, not because he was the best man for the job.

    Yup, there's racism, but a lot of it comes from minorities.
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    Re: Has obama brought the races together

    Quote Originally Posted by WCH View Post
    His actions and demeanor speak otherwise.
    You recognize that when you talk about your read on a persons "demeanor" you widen the margin for error don't you? What actions are you referring to?

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    Re: Has obama brought the races together

    Quote Originally Posted by iliveonramen View Post
    Off the top of my head....Bush was "sickened" by the beating of Rodney King. After the officers were found innocent the Department of Justice indicted the officers for violations of civil rights.

    I know though...that was sooooo long ago and don't let reality get between your rightwing narrative.
    President George H. W. Bush spoke out against the rioting, stating that "anarchy" would not be tolerated.

    Later, U.S. President George H.W. Bush addressed the country, denouncing "random terror and lawlessness", summarizing his discussions with Mayor Bradley and Governor Wilson, and outlining the federal assistance he was making available to local authorities. Citing the "urgent need to restore order", he warned that the "brutality of a mob" would not be tolerated, and he would "use whatever force is necessary". He then turned to the Rodney King case and a more moderate tone, describing talking to his own grandchildren and pointing to the reaction of "good and decent policemen" as well as civil rights leaders. He said he had already directed the Justice Department to begin its own investigation, saying that "grand jury action is underway today" and that justice would prevail.

    He was being presidential, not haphazardly commenting out of emotion.

    Clinton on the other hand argued that the violence resulted from the breakdown of economic opportunities and social institutions in the inner city. He also berated both major political parties for failing to address urban issues, especially the Republican Administration for its presiding over "more than a decade of urban decay" generated by their spending cuts.[74] He maintained that the King verdicts could not be avenged by the "savage behavior" of "lawless vandals". He also stated that people "are looting because ... [t]hey do not share our values, and their children are growing up in a culture alien from ours, without family, without neighborhood, without church, without support."

    Maybe it's not the POTUS but, the party that's the problem?

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    Re: Has obama brought the races together

    Quote Originally Posted by opendebate View Post
    You recognize that when you talk about your read on a persons "demeanor" you widen the margin for error don't you? What actions are you referring to?
    I didn't realize I was being psychoanalyzed but, I've seen enough of this fool to do my own.

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    "So injecting himself into issues that he and his followers gave racial overtones (Martin/Zimmerman, the 'professor', along with most issues his hit man Holder has been involved in, voting laws, gun running, not going after obvious voter intimidation, etc) has no effect?
    Let's be honest here."

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    Re: Has obama brought the races together

    Quote Originally Posted by iliveonramen View Post
    Yes...race has never been a problem. It like everything else is Obama's fault...
    Except when it's Bush II's fault.
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    Re: Has obama brought the races together

    Why should our President be responsible for our personal decisions and choices we make? Are we so moronic that we can't decide for ourselves?
    If one is racist, own it for yourself and either work towards a positive change or shut up.

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    Re: Has obama brought the races together

    Quote Originally Posted by WCH View Post
    Other POTUSs haven't injected themselves into these sort of issues. Feel free to give me an example if you can think of one.

    Other POTUSs haven't publicly acknowledged having a 'chip on their shoulder' because to their mixed race status or admitted to hiding his 'Whiteness' from other while growing up.

    Maybe I'm just mistaken and it happens in every presidency.
    Well, the last president did what his Republican constituents do. He ignored racial issues and pretended they didn't exist. What you're calling "injecting" is simply acknowledging the existence of problems. I get why that's hard for a conservative to do, though. I'm sure you'd prefer to just go back to pretending that there are no problems, since most of them benefit you at the expensive of blacks and latinos.
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