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    Re: Most Important Allied Member of WWII

    The USA.

    England 2nd

    USSR 3rd.

    The USSR has been given a huge share of the victory with revisionist history. Yes, they did a lot. A LOT. But they fought on one front and in one style of combat. The Eastern Front. They lost so many people because they were under supplied and sent hoards charging German machine gun nests with no weapons. The battles were huge and the costs high and they did a great job eating up a lot of German resources and men. Without the USA and England, Russia would have lost.

    The USA fought on all fronts, as did England... almost. The USA supplied the world's Allies with everything and enabled both the UK and the USSR to survive. The USA fought naval battles, beach invasions, deserts and the bulk of the bombing.

    England also battled in various theatres of war.
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    Re: Most Important Allied Member of WWII

    Quote Originally Posted by radcen View Post
    I always used to believe that Germany could have won had they taken their time and knocked off each country one or two at a time instead of stretching themselves too thin by taking on the entire world at once.
    I don't believe they could have knocked us off

    we had far more men
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    Re: Most Important Allied Member of WWII

    Quote Originally Posted by Perotista View Post
    On the serious side, I would have to say England as that little country kept Germany at bay from 1939 to December of 1941 which gave the United States time to get ready. Then too, who knows what would have happened if Hitler honored his non-agression pact with the USSR. but there are so many what ifs, they could fill dozens of books.
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    Re: Most Important Allied Member of WWII

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    Re: Most Important Allied Member of WWII

    Quote Originally Posted by Perotista View Post
    On the serious side, I would have to say England as that little country kept Germany at bay from 1939 to December of 1941 which gave the United States time to get ready. Then too, who knows what would have happened if Hitler honored his non-agression pact with the USSR. but there are so many what ifs, they could fill dozens of books.
    England did a ton. North Africa. Sicily. D-Day. Commando raids.

    Germany would have eventually been at war with the USSR no matter what. Stalin had no delusions about that. What Germany should have done was not invade Poland and bypass them through Romania and Bulgaria. Take out the USSR and then turn towards France, sweep back to Poland and then to France.
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    Re: Most Important Allied Member of WWII

    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    England did a ton. North Africa. Sicily. D-Day. Commando raids.

    Germany would have eventually been at war with the USSR no matter what. Stalin had no delusions about that. What Germany should have done was not invade Poland and bypass them through Romania and Bulgaria. Take out the USSR and then turn towards France, sweep back to Poland and then to France.
    I wonder what that extra month or two Hitler spent putting down the rebellion in Yugosolovia before his invasion of the USSR cost him. Starting that invasion in April or May instead of June 22nd, probably made the difference between taking Moscow and not. But even so, Stalin had already moved a lot of factories east of the Urals. Who knows.
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    Re: Most Important Allied Member of WWII

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    I don't believe they could have knocked us off

    we had far more men
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    and we only had a socialist for a leader-not a crazed racist nutcase
    Probably not. Distance would have been a factor, also. We might have been able to invade Europe, but I don't think they would have ever been able to launch an invasion across the Atlantic. Note that I said "used to believe". Though if they had never declared war on us, and had knocked off Britain, and not otherwise provoked us, we might have coexisted.
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    Re: Most Important Allied Member of WWII

    Quote Originally Posted by Perotista View Post
    I wonder what that extra month or two Hitler spent putting down the rebellion in Yugosolovia before his invasion of the USSR cost him. Starting that invasion in April or May instead of June 22nd, probably made the difference between taking Moscow and not. But even so, Stalin had already moved a lot of factories east of the Urals. Who knows.
    There are a lot of what ifs. What if Japan had won Midway and the battle of the Coral Sea? An invasion of California would have happened. The USA would have been seriously screwed for a long time.
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    Re: Most Important Allied Member of WWII

    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    There are a lot of what ifs. What if Japan had won Midway and the battle of the Coral Sea? An invasion of California would have happened. The USA would have been seriously screwed for a long time.
    Hawaii I could see, but not so sure about the west coast.
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    Re: Most Important Allied Member of WWII

    Quote Originally Posted by radcen View Post
    Hawaii I could see, but not so sure about the west coast.
    the US military was worried enough to prepare coastal defences along the West Coast. There was a large bunker and gun emplacement where I grew up in Southern California prepared to deal with the Japanese should they attack.
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