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    34 38.64%
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    Re: Most Important Allied Member of WWII

    Quote Originally Posted by Andalublue View Post
    Well, provided they don't mind us referring to them as 'The Colonies', I'm cool with it.
    Well they still speak Shakespearean English so you can;t blame them for being a few decades behind.

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    Re: Most Important Allied Member of WWII

    Based on the wording of some of the posts I sense that some posters confuse the question and believe it relates to the US's most important ally.
    If you claim sexual harassment to be wrong, yet you defend anyone on your side for any reason,
    then you are a hypocrite and everything you say on the matter is just babble.

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    Re: Most Important Allied Member of WWII

    Quote Originally Posted by radioman View Post
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    Tough to vote for Russia since they were allied with Germany--non-aggression pact, simultaneous invasion of Poland-- even though, as you correctly point out, Hitler turned on them.
    The UK stood strong, but US entry meant Hitler was doomed.
    There are some who believe Stalin knew he would be betrayed, but that he signed the pact to gain himself more time to prepare. For all his faults and evilness, he was sometimes pretty good at setting aside emotion and taking the cold pragmatic approach.
    If you claim sexual harassment to be wrong, yet you defend anyone on your side for any reason,
    then you are a hypocrite and everything you say on the matter is just babble.

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    Re: Most Important Allied Member of WWII

    From what I've read, Stalin was in utter disbelief that Hitler turned on him and wouldn't come out and speak to the public for days.

    As for your post #52, that's what I thought initially. I was the 2nd post, and either the poll wasn't up yet or I skipped over it. I said the UK earlier, but I'd probably say the US now. It would be very close.

    Quote Originally Posted by radcen View Post
    There are some who believe Stalin knew he would be betrayed, but that he signed the pact to gain himself more time to prepare. For all his faults and evilness, he was sometimes pretty good at setting aside emotion and taking the cold pragmatic approach.

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    Re: Most Important Allied Member of WWII

    Quote Originally Posted by JC Callender View Post
    From what I've read, Stalin was in utter disbelief that Hitler turned on him and wouldn't come out and speak to the public for days.
    I've read that as well.

    This is pure speculation on my part, but I wonder if it wasn't a little of both. He wasn't shocked that he was betrayed, but shocked at when or how soon he was betrayed. I have a hard time believing that Stalin was that naive to not see it coming at all.
    If you claim sexual harassment to be wrong, yet you defend anyone on your side for any reason,
    then you are a hypocrite and everything you say on the matter is just babble.

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    Re: Most Important Allied Member of WWII

    Yeah, Stalin probably thought what everyone else did....why would Hitler attack him at that point in time. I'm sure Hitler probably knew how to play up to Stalin's ego as well in assuring him that he wasn't going to attack.

    Quote Originally Posted by radcen View Post
    I've read that as well.

    This is pure speculation on my part, but I wonder if it wasn't a little of both. He wasn't shocked that he was betrayed, but shocked at when or how soon he was betrayed. I have a hard time believing that Stalin was that naive to not see it coming at all.
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    Re: Most Important Allied Member of WWII

    Quote Originally Posted by Red_Dave View Post
    Well they still speak Shakespearean English so you can;t blame them for being a few decades behind.
    plays or poems ? it may differ
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    Re: Most Important Allied Member of WWII

    This is a no doubter, without the U.S. all the countries in Europe would be speaking German today.
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    Re: Most Important Allied Member of WWII

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    This is a no doubter, without the U.S. all the countries in Europe would be speaking German today.
    I'd listen to Navy Pride. He was probably there.

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    Re: Most Important Allied Member of WWII

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    This is a no doubter, without the U.S. all the countries in Europe would be speaking German today.
    How would the US have launched the D-Day landings had Britain surrendered in 1940?

    The contribution of the US was critical to the final victory, but so were the British and Russian contributions. All three were essential.
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