Link to Quote"Let's keep our boots polished, bayonets sharpened, and present a picture of force and strength to the Red Army. This is the only language they understand and respect."
"I understand the situation. Their (the Soviet) supply system is inadequate to maintain them in a serious action such as I could put to them. They have chickens in the coop and cattle on the hoof -- that's their supply system. They could probably maintain themselves in the type of fighting I could give them for five days. After that it would make no difference how many million men they have, and if you wanted Moscow I could give it to you. They lived on the land coming down. There is insufficient left for them to maintain themselves going back. Let's not give them time to build up their supplies. If we do, then . . . we have had a victory over the Germans and disarmed them, but we have failed in the liberation of Europe; we have lost the war!"
Patton to U.S. Secretary of War Robert Patterson, May 7, 1945
As a dreamer of dreams and a travellin' man, I have chalked up many a mile.
Read dozens of books about heroes and crooks and I've learned much from both of their styles!
Yes, they were. In fact, Stalin knew about the Manhattan Project before Truman did because of Russian spies. The Russians spied from the very beginning of the Project.Wasn't Russia totalitarian well before the war?
The USSR sure was totalitarian since its birth, but that was never a choice of Russians and other captive peoples: the Leninists never won any elections, and retained their power by systematic extermination of all and any opposition.
When German tanks rolled into Kiev and western Russian towns, they were showered with flowers. People believed they are being liberated from the worst tyranny in history. Of course, the Nazis being the Nazis, in a year or so the same people were hiding in the woods, staging a greatest guerilla war in history against the occupation.
It's like Solzhenitsyn said, "If you have to choose between two murderous psychopaths, you probably go for the one that speaks your own language".
(Stalin spoke Russian with a huge Georgian accent, but still better than Hitler)
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Under the Lenin's New Economic Policy (the "fascist" phase, 1920-1929, give or take, when strictly controlled private enterprise and foreign investments were encouraged), there was a rush of American money, expertise and entrepreneurial energy. The Democratic sugar daddy Armand Hammer made his big bucks there (and kept close ties with Stalin and subsequent Soviet bosses); and the charismatic Fred C. Koch - father of our own libertarian sugar daddies, the Koch Bros. - also was there, and as productive as anyone (he emerged from the USSR cursing and spitting, and terminated all business contacts there; I do recommend his book, A Business Man Looks at Communism, but still - the deed was done...).
That's very hard to say. I picked Russia before I realized the U.S. is on the list (I realize the U.S. was one of the allied nations, but was thinking of the question as "which was our most valuable ally, in which case, it's Russia hands down). I would put those two at roughly equivalent in terms of overall causal importance to winning the war.
Also, the Soviets were certainly not unarmed, badly trained, and incompetently led during the latter years of the war.
The tragedy is not that things are broken. The tragedy is that things are not mended again. - Alan Paton
Bach is the beginning and end of all music - Max Reger
It is not God who kills the children. Not fate that butchers them or destiny that feeds them to the dogs. It's us. Only us - Rorschach