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Is God male or female?

Is God a male or a female?

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Nothing because it simply doesn't exist. The concept of God was created long ago and used as a means of thought control. The world (or universe for this matter) doesn't revolve around good and evil. The concept of an afterlife was a reason for the thought control. Be good or in the next life you burn for all eternity (because apparently we're on a trial run in this life and our next is somehow eternal).
 
God is the union of opposites. That which transcends the polarity we represent, in our gender designation. Gender is inapplicable. For whatever reason, God decides that we should reflect a duality that precludes our own elevation to godhood, while being the embodiment of a complementarity that describes it. At once process and product. A cynic might deem it punitive, though my understanding of suffering is one of refinement. The expansion of soul in the crucible of strife.

It's not that God has no gender, but that He's beyond such limitation.
 
NoC_T said:
God is the union of opposites. That which transcends the polarity we represent, in our gender designation. Gender is inapplicable. For whatever reason, God decides that we should reflect a duality that precludes our own elevation to godhood, while being the embodiment of a complementarity that describes it. At once process and product. A cynic might deem it punitive, though my understanding of suffering is one of refinement. The expansion of soul in the crucible of strife.

It's not that God has no gender, but that He's beyond such limitation.
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This is one of the most profound statements I've read in my lifetime.
 
grip said:
This is one of the most profound statements I've read in my lifetime.
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NoC_T said:
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Extremely serious. For He made them in his image male and female. God has never never been just one being but an amalgamation of two and more. The Father may be the head but even He will admit there is no family without a mother and son. If he wanted to be the father alone He would have never created a people and have remained alone.

You my friend are like Peter who God built His church upon.
 
grip said:
Extremely serious. For He made them in his image male and female. God has never never been just one being but an amalgamation of two and more. The Father may be the head but even He will admit there is no family without a mother and son. If he wanted to be the father alone He would have never created a people and have remained alone.

You my friend are like Peter who God built His church upon.
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Nice one. Cheers.
 
NoC_T said:
Nice one. Cheers.
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Only the bearer of the truth knows his true worth. By saying you're nothing you give us the privilege of saying you're are everything.
 
upsideguy said:
Of course, at the time God was 100% man.... If he was 100% man then how can be he God?

Please tell me where in the Bible it says Jesus is God.... (hint, it does not... the concept of the Trinity is a creation of man... used to try to define God)
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The entire book of John....
 
Here i always thought god was a hermaphrodite.
 
davidtaylorjr said:
The entire book of John....
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.... ah, no. I suggest you re-read John. Other than John 1:1, which is the most compelling argument for the Trinity in the Bible (and that verse is metaphoric), most of John draws clear distinction between Christ and the Father and between Christ and God. In general, the entire book of John is more of an argument that the Trinity is a hoax.

My challenge to the Trinity is only that it is the creation of a committee of biblical scholars and politicians. It is NOT biblical, but merely a biblical argument... yet people accept as if it were clearly set forth in the Scripture. It is not. After all, Timothy 2 3:16-17 tells us:

"....All Scripture is inspired by God and profitable for teaching, for reproof, for correction, for training in righteousness; so that the servant of God maybe thoroughly equipped for every good work...."

Sorry, but 2 Timothy promises me that I should be able to find this.... and if it were really a foundational doctrine that God wanted us to understand, wouldn't this be abundantly clear rather than masked in one metaphoric verse and contracted in hundreds of others.

The Trinity ain't in the Bible nor does it ever say Christ is God.... yet people hold steadfast to this belief (a belief of men).... The problem with the belief is that when you think of Christ as God, much of the richness of Christ's life is muddled (I mean, really, how is God tempted by Satan... but the Son of God (in the full richness and honor of Jewish tradition), like the first Son of God (Adam) clearly can be tempted by Satan... and Christ's ability to overcome that temptation is really rich.

Re-read John... consider the clear distinction of Christ as the Son of God (of God, but NOT God).... you may find it exceptionally enriching. Consider for one moment that you have been buffaloed by your church for years (they didn't tell you that the Trinity was CREATED by a political committee and nothing more than an interesting Biblical argument).... If nothing else, realize it is a belief and not necessarily the truth.
 
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upsideguy said:
.... ah, no. I suggest you re-read John. Other than John 1:1, which is the most compelling argument for the Trinity in the Bible (and that verse is metaphoric), most of John draws clear distinction between Christ and the Father and between Christ and God. In general, the entire book of John is more of an argument that the Trinity is a hoax.

My challenge to the Trinity is only that it is the creation of a committee of biblical scholars and politicians. It is NOT biblical, but merely a biblical argument... yet people accept as if it were clearly set forth in the Scripture. It is not. After all, Timothy 2 3:16-17 tells us:

"....All Scripture is inspired by God and profitable for teaching, for reproof, for correction, for training in righteousness; so that the servant of God maybe thoroughly equipped for every good work...."

Sorry, but 2 Timothy promises me that I should be able to find this.... and if it were really a foundational doctrine that God wanted us to understand, wouldn't this be abundantly clear rather than masked in one metaphoric verse and contracted in hundreds of others.

The Trinity ain't in the Bible nor does it ever say Christ is God.... yet people hold steadfast to this belief (a belief of men).... The problem with the belief is that when you think of Christ as God, much of the richness of Christ's life is muddled (I mean, really, how is God tempted by Satan... but the Son of God (in the full richness and honor of Jewish tradition), like the first Son of God (Adam) clearly can be tempted by Satan... and Christ's ability to overcome that temptation is really rich.

Re-read John... consider the clear distinction of Christ as the Son of God (of God, but NOT God).... you may find it exceptionally enriching. Consider for one moment that you have been buffaloed by your church for years (they didn't tell you that the Trinity was CREATED by a political committee and nothing more than an interesting Biblical argument).... If nothing else, realize it is a belief and not necessarily the truth.
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You should read John again, I've done a full study on the book, time after time it shows Christ as God. "I and the Father are one."
 
davidtaylorjr said:
You should read John again, I've done a full study on the book, time after time it shows Christ as God. "I and the Father are one."
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I am re-reading it. ... and, congratulations, John 10:30 is probably the second strongest arguments for the Trinity (or at least arguing in favor of equating Christ with God), but it is still a pretty weak argument. It does not say "I am God", it says "I and the Father are one."..... they are not the same thing. Does this mean, which many interpret it as a metaphor such that "I and the Father are of the same purpose" or another interpretation can mean (kind of reconciling the two) I, am the Son and the Father is my Father and We are one (of one family in common purpose such that "I speak for my father")? Can you say wit authority that those interpretations are not correct?

Similarly, Genesis 2:24 states "...Therefore a man shall leave his father and his mother and hold fast to his wife, and they shall become one flesh...." and Jesus quotes this scripture in Matthew 5 as ".....and said, ‘Therefore a man shall leave his father and his mother and hold fast to his wife, and the two shall become one flesh’? 6 So they are no longer two but one flesh. What therefore God has joined together, let not man separate.....” My wife and I are "one"... we are "one flesh".... but, as I sit here, the rest of my flesh, the rest of my one, is 120 miles away. My wife and I are of one purpose; our marriage a single entity in the eyes of God, but I am not my wife and she is not me..... we are both Smith's, but we are not the same.

Sorry, again, the idea of the Trinity is a creation of biblical scholars (and politicians) in the 4th century based upon a biblical argument (and obviously a pretty good argument to survive time) But, that is all it is. I stand on my original point: No where in the Bible does it explicitly state that Jesus was God. The problem is, too many Christians take the Trinity as Gospel Truth, when its just a good argument set forth by man.

All of the fundamental precepts of Christian and Jewish faith are clearly set forth in the Bible. Most of those precepts are explicit; they do not require biblical scholars, but rather just someone reading the Bible that has a heart for the Lord. If the Trinity is such an important precept why is it hidden and why did it take scholars to tell us it was there?

Again, 2 Timothy 3:16-17: "...All Scripture is breathed out by God and profitable for teaching, for reproof, for correction, and for training in righteousness, 17 that the man of God may be complete, equipped for every good work...." So, if the Trinity is correct, where is it?

BTW... despite what the Catholic Church might tell you, your salvation is NOT dependent on believing Jesus is God; its dependent on acknowledgment of your brokenness, God's grace and your faith that Jesus is the Son (and Lamb) of God.
 
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upsideguy said:
I am re-reading it. ... and, congratulations, John 10:30 is probably the second strongest arguments for the Trinity (or at least arguing in favor of equating Christ with God), but it is still a pretty weak argument. It does not say "I am God", it says "I and the Father are one."..... they are not the same thing. Does this mean, which many interpret it as a metaphor such that "I and the Father are of the same purpose" or another interpretation can mean (kind of reconciling the two) I, am the Son and the Father is my Father and We are one (of one family in common purpose such that "I speak for my father")? Can you say wit authority that those interpretations are not correct?

Similarly, Genesis 2:24 states "...Therefore a man shall leave his father and his mother and hold fast to his wife, and they shall become one flesh...." and Jesus quotes this scripture in Matthew 5 as ".....and said, ‘Therefore a man shall leave his father and his mother and hold fast to his wife, and the two shall become one flesh’? 6 So they are no longer two but one flesh. What therefore God has joined together, let not man separate.....” My wife and I are "one"... we are "one flesh".... but, as I sit here, the rest of my flesh, the rest of my one, is 120 miles away. My wife and I are of one purpose; our marriage a single entity in the eyes of God, but I am not my wife and she is not me..... we are both Smith's, but we are not the same.

Sorry, again, the idea of the Trinity is a creation of biblical scholars (and politicians) in the 4th century based upon a biblical argument (and obviously a pretty good argument to survive time) But, that is all it is. I stand on my original point: No where in the Bible does it explicitly state that Jesus was God. The problem is, too many Christians take the Trinity as Gospel Truth, when its just a good argument set forth by man.

All of the fundamental precepts of Christian and Jewish faith are clearly set forth in the Bible. Most of those precepts are explicit; they do not require biblical scholars, but rather just someone reading the Bible that has a heart for the Lord. If the Trinity is such an important precept why is it hidden and why did it take scholars to tell us it was there?

Again, 2 Timothy 3:16-17: "...All Scripture is breathed out by God and profitable for teaching, for reproof, for correction, and for training in righteousness, 17 that the man of God may be complete, equipped for every good work...." So, if the Trinity is correct, where is it?

BTW... despite what the Catholic Church might tell you, your salvation is NOT dependent on believing Jesus is God; its dependent on acknowledgment of your brokenness, God's grace and your faith that Jesus is the Son (and Lamb) of God.
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John 1 also claims Jesus to be God. "And the Word (Jesus) was God."
 
Gathomas88 said:
The answers to your question are respectively "neither" and, if you want to get technical about things, "male."

It is "neither" because God is ultimately a sexless incorporeal spirit of limitless power and intelligence.

That being said, however; it should be pointed out that Christ was, and according to most theology, still is, a man. Therefore, God can, technically speaking, be said to be "male" in nature rather than female.
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Jehovah or Yahweh as he is sometimes called is most certainly a male. I voted female because I am a servant of Manager. Manager is clearly a female.
 
German guy said:
Neither. God is not a person. Any description that attaches personal attributes to God are just very vague analogies that allow man to imagine *something*, at least a remote glimpse of God, but the analogy should not be mistaken for reality. God is incomprehensible by definition, as the comprehended (man) can never fully understand the comprehending (God).

It is my belief that God sent countless messengers or prophets to mankind, who founded new religions or rather "updated" old ones. Among others, Abraham, Moses, Krishna, Zarathustra, Buddha, Jesus, Mohammed and Baha'u'llah were such divine prophets sent by the one and only God, and accordingly, all of the religions they founded are equally true. Differences in these religions are due to the necessities of a fallible, developing mankind in different stages of its development.

That's a fundamental teaching of my religion, so I have to conclude that all those seemingly conflicting images of God and metaphysical explanations in these different religions are equally true, and where we perceive unreconcilable differences, we either don't try hard enough to concile them, or hit the barrier of our limited fallible human understanding.

The different religions are just looking at the same reality from different perspectives. Likewise, God is not anymore a person than He is a force, a principle or a manner of thinking.
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This sounds like the same religion of Rainn Wilson. I think it's called Baha'i. If not, to what religion are you referring?
 
Why would god have a sex or gender? Is there some other god to **** and reproduce with that we aren't aware of?
 
upsideguy said:
I am re-reading it. ... and, congratulations, John 10:30 is probably the second strongest arguments for the Trinity (or at least arguing in favor of equating Christ with God), but it is still a pretty weak argument. It does not say "I am God", it says "I and the Father are one."..... they are not the same thing. Does this mean, which many interpret it as a metaphor such that "I and the Father are of the same purpose" or another interpretation can mean (kind of reconciling the two) I, am the Son and the Father is my Father and We are one (of one family in common purpose such that "I speak for my father")? Can you say wit authority that those interpretations are not correct?

Similarly, Genesis 2:24 states "...Therefore a man shall leave his father and his mother and hold fast to his wife, and they shall become one flesh...." and Jesus quotes this scripture in Matthew 5 as ".....and said, ‘Therefore a man shall leave his father and his mother and hold fast to his wife, and the two shall become one flesh’? 6 So they are no longer two but one flesh. What therefore God has joined together, let not man separate.....” My wife and I are "one"... we are "one flesh".... but, as I sit here, the rest of my flesh, the rest of my one, is 120 miles away. My wife and I are of one purpose; our marriage a single entity in the eyes of God, but I am not my wife and she is not me..... we are both Smith's, but we are not the same.

Sorry, again, the idea of the Trinity is a creation of biblical scholars (and politicians) in the 4th century based upon a biblical argument (and obviously a pretty good argument to survive time) But, that is all it is. I stand on my original point: No where in the Bible does it explicitly state that Jesus was God. The problem is, too many Christians take the Trinity as Gospel Truth, when its just a good argument set forth by man.

All of the fundamental precepts of Christian and Jewish faith are clearly set forth in the Bible. Most of those precepts are explicit; they do not require biblical scholars, but rather just someone reading the Bible that has a heart for the Lord. If the Trinity is such an important precept why is it hidden and why did it take scholars to tell us it was there?

Again, 2 Timothy 3:16-17: "...All Scripture is breathed out by God and profitable for teaching, for reproof, for correction, and for training in righteousness, 17 that the man of God may be complete, equipped for every good work...." So, if the Trinity is correct, where is it?

BTW... despite what the Catholic Church might tell you, your salvation is NOT dependent on believing Jesus is God; its dependent on acknowledgment of your brokenness, God's grace and your faith that Jesus is the Son (and Lamb) of God.
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I'd say female and she is my wife.
 
Aunt Spiker said:
I've always been confused over people's fuss over 'god's gender' - why can't a creature exist without gender?
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I guess it can but then the religious run into problems with the Bible as we were created in His image... we are male and female. What other image is there?
 
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