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    Should we go into Syria

    Well Obama's red line has been crossed and we went into Libya for far less so what do you think? "Residents of Damascus suburbs recount massive assault by Assad army; videos show small children convulsing on the floor, foaming at the nose and mouth. Doctor: Injuries correspond with sarin gas "
    "The men, women and children lying undisturbed in their beds had looked so peaceful they might have been just sleeping, Abu Nidal thought, as he and other rescuers dragged their bodies into the street."

    "His was one of many accounts of a massive assault on the eastern suburbs of Damascus that activists say killed more than 500 people on Wednesday morning. They say some of the bombs were loaded with chemical agent, which would make it the worst chemical attack since the conflict began"
    http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7...420755,00.html
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    Re: Should we go into Syria

    Let's see..... two years ago, cpwill said that we should go in just enough to secure Syria's WMD stockpiles and facilities, and remove them, and provide security for refugees trying to flee the fighting.



    ....now, the regime (and possibly the opposition, who is heavily infused with Al Qaeda) are using those stockpiles of WMD's, and over 100,000 people have been killed....


    additionally and perhaps equally or more significantly, the United States has just demonstrated in the worst possible way that it is a feckless, weak-willed nation unwilling to actually back it's talk (at least, under the current administration). The value of the U.S. Security Guarantee just got seriously degraded the world over. Do you know what the most important thing about a threat is? You have to be willing to back it up.

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    Re: Should we go into Syria

    I think Putin is calling Obama's bluff and it's working.

    They see the US as weak and vulnerable.

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    Re: Should we go into Syria

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    Let's see..... two years ago, cpwill said that we should go in just enough to secure Syria's WMD stockpiles and facilities, and remove them, and provide security for refugees trying to flee the fighting.



    ....now, the regime (and possibly the opposition, who is heavily infused with Al Qaeda) are using those stockpiles of WMD's, and over 100,000 people have been killed....


    additionally and perhaps equally or more significantly, the United States has just demonstrated in the worst possible way that it is a feckless, weak-willed nation unwilling to actually back it's talk (at least, under the current administration). The value of the U.S. Security Guarantee just got seriously degraded the world over. Do you know what the most important thing about a threat is? You have to be willing to back it up.
    I was for helping the rebels in Syria when things first broke out but Obama has now procrastinated so long that this thing has morphed into something different and Alquiada has filled in the vacuum we left. At this point I say it's a hornets nest we should stay far away from.

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    Re: Should we go into Syria

    Quote Originally Posted by sawyerloggingon View Post
    I was for helping the rebels in Syria when things first broke out but Obama has now procrastinated so long that this thing has morphed into something different and Alquiada has filled in the vacuum we left. At this point I say it's a hornets nest we should stay far away from.
    I wouldn't say we should stay far from it - I maintain that we can help provide security at the borders of our allies, protect fleeing refugees, and (if possible) deter WMD use. But yeah, I'd be pretty skeptical about arming the rebels at this point. I'd rather just bomb the regime.

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    Re: Should we go into Syria

    Do we have the disposable billions to join that fight?

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    Re: Should we go into Syria

    Quote Originally Posted by sawyerloggingon View Post
    Well Obama's red line has been crossed and we went into Libya for far less so what do you think? "Residents of Damascus suburbs recount massive assault by Assad army; videos show small children convulsing on the floor, foaming at the nose and mouth. Doctor: Injuries correspond with sarin gas "
    "The men, women and children lying undisturbed in their beds had looked so peaceful they might have been just sleeping, Abu Nidal thought, as he and other rescuers dragged their bodies into the street."

    "His was one of many accounts of a massive assault on the eastern suburbs of Damascus that activists say killed more than 500 people on Wednesday morning. They say some of the bombs were loaded with chemical agent, which would make it the worst chemical attack since the conflict began"
    Syrians retrieve 'sleeping' dead after alleged chemical attack - Israel News, Ynetnews
    News flash - people die in civil wars. This is now happening in Egypt too, but less the WMD use (so far). The US cannot and should not jump into all regional conflicts. It is not as simple as two sides, one right and the other wrong. In the complex mess now evident in the middle east and northern Africa there are many groups of folks wanting to be in power, and at varying levels.

    Iraq, for example is really three "countries" and none of them really wish to live under a one size fits all central gov't. If the US cannot manage to get the doctor that aidied in the UBL assasination out of jail in our "ally" Pakistan or keep Egypt from falling apart (reverting to military rule) with billions of aid it is very doubtful that U.S. "help" in Syria will end up turning that situation around in the long term. We now nearly fully support Afghanistan (70% of its GDP is our money), the worlds largest heroin producer - so much for our "war on drugs".
    “The reasonable man adapts himself to the world: the unreasonable one persists to adapt the world to himself.
    Therefore all progress depends on the unreasonable man.” ― George Bernard Shaw, Man and Superman

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    Re: Should we go into Syria

    Hell NO.
    We have our own problems.
    More Americans die in 3 years from lack of proper health care than have died in the total Syrian strife.
    I am ok with trying to manipulate the situation, but no more wars unless we are physically attacked. Period.

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    Re: Should we go into Syria

    Obama's foreign policy and diplomatic positioning is a joke. It proves he is clueless, looking for someone to love him. He is useless. These deaths are on his hands, during his watch. Let's see if he's gonna throw another "It's Bush's fault" at us. The rodeo clown had a better grasp.

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    Re: Should we go into Syria

    No, we shouldn't. If the U.N. wants to authorize some sort of action where it would require multiple countries support in both troops and money, maybe. But not just the U.S.

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