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Should we go into Syria

Should we go into Syria

  • Yes, the red line has been crossed

    Votes: 23 13.9%

  • No way Jose, not our problem

    Votes: 143 86.1%
  • Total voters
    166
conservanarchy said:
if we value our ability to be a world power and our ability to back up our talk we would invade.
that said the hornets nest that is now syria is a place that has forfieted all claims to legitimacy by killing its own people with international illegal weapons of sarin gas.
if we want to stabilize the area we need to be decisive something that the weak administration knows nothing of this is a consequentialistic debate...
what happens if we do nothing.
:peace
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Show conclusive proof that Syria used CW. Conclusive.
 
TheGirlNextDoor said:
Oh please. The quickest way to get "struck", is by going to another country and sticking our big fat noses in where it does not belong.

If you truly believe "the bad guys are watching" and that that will lead to us being "struck", then why the hell.... IN YOUR OWN WORDS, did 9/11 happen.

Who was taking inaction then?

Good Gawd. /facepalm
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9/11 happened because of our failue to retaluate against attacks prior to 9/11, which emboldened the enemy to launch a more braisen atack.
 
Diogenes said:
True, it is about politics and not religion. The war is against Political Islam, not Religious Islam. Political Islam is merely another despicable political ideology like the Nazis, and it is unfortunate that so much of Religious Islam allows Islamists to use religion as a cover for their political ambitions. A few weeks before she was assassinated, Benazir Bhutto survived another assassination attempt and raged afterwards that "These are not Muslims! Muslims do not make war on women!"
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I think this is much more than Nazism. One identified with the nation in Nazism. Here you have people believing that what they do is alright and this does not comes from mere human Hitler, but from God itself!!

It is the fanatic, fundamentalism of religion, diverted directly to be used in politics! Influencing one to stay away from politics is just as difficult as to influence one away from religion. The religion and meanings that they have surrounded their perceptive filters with about nearly anything related to life and "after."
 
Well then it's settled, lets stop beating round the Bush and openly declare war on Islam!

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AngryOldGuy said:
Well then it's settled, lets stop beating round the Bush and openly declare war on Islam!
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Islamists, not Islam. Islamists insist on imposing their perverted Sharia law on others, peaceful Muslims do not. I have no quarrel with peaceful Muslims.
 
We had no quarrel with the German people just the Nazi party
the folks living in Cologne and Dresden were just collateral dommage
 
Just a cryin' ass shame eh?
oh well when the nukes start lighting off over there
new records for one day death tolls will be set?
 
apdst said:
9/11 happened because of our failue to retaluate against attacks prior to 9/11, which emboldened the enemy to launch a more braisen atack.
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That or terrorist attacks are low probability events and with enough time we'll realize them. But yeah, I'm glad we traded our freedom for this.
 
Ikari said:
That or terrorist attacks are low probability events and with enough time we'll realize them. But yeah, I'm glad we traded our freedom for this.
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How is engaging the enemy violating our rights?
 
apdst said:
How is engaging the enemy violating our rights?
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It's all the fear mongering used in doing so that has consumed our rights as our government has used this as an excuse for massive expansion of powers and has taken it against our freedom and liberty. I'd rather not cede freedom for low probability events.
 
apdst said:
How is engaging the enemy violating our rights?
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In the case of Syria you have the choice of engaging the Alawite, Ba'athist, Shi'a enemy or the Salafist, Al Qaeda, Wahhabist enemy. You choose.,
 
Andalublue said:
In the case of Syria you have the choice of engaging the Alawite, Ba'athist, Shi'a enemy or the Salafist, Al Qaeda, Wahhabist enemy. You choose.,
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Can't we just take the Contras again?
 
Ikari said:
It's all the fear mongering used in doing so that has consumed our rights as our government has used this as an excuse for massive expansion of powers and has taken it against our freedom and liberty. I'd rather not cede freedom for low probability events.
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All I'm doing is pointing out the historical evidence thar proves inaction to a threat has negative concequences.
 
Andalublue said:
In the case of Syria you have the choice of engaging the Alawite, Ba'athist, Shi'a enemy or the Salafist, Al Qaeda, Wahhabist enemy. You choose.,
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Backing down, now, isn!t an option.
 
apdst said:
All I'm doing is pointing out the historical evidence thar proves inaction to a threat has negative concequences.
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And that proof would be? I think at best you're going to have WW II, the last time we officially declared war. At best.
 
apdst said:
Backing down, now, isn!t an option.
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There is nothing to be gained by bombing Syria. There are at least six factions trying to topple Assad, and when he's gone, they'll fight amongst each other for control of the country...
 
AlabamaPaul said:
There is nothing to be gained by bombing Syria. There are at least six factions trying to topple Assad, and when he's gone, they'll fight amongst each other for control of the country...
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Good afternoon, AP. :2wave:

Great post! :thumbs: This is why we don't need to cause additional chaos and deaths by interfering in what is actually a religious war in Syria! They've been killing each other over this topic for hundreds of years. The UN has the responsibility of proving which faction used the chemical weapons and determining punishment. That doesn't seem to be BHO's objective in bombing Syria, however. It appears that he wants to pick the winner, and that can only cause further problems! :thumbdown:
 
polgara said:
Good afternoon, AP. :2wave:

Great post! :thumbs: This is why we don't need to cause additional chaos and deaths by interfering in what is actually a religious war in Syria! They've been killing each other over this topic for hundreds of years. The UN has the responsibility of proving which faction used the chemical weapons and determining punishment. That doesn't seem to be BHO's objective in bombing Syria, however. It appears that he wants to pick the winner, and that can only cause further problems! :thumbdown:
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Good afternoon pg... It's hard to pick a winner when you have multiple small groups fighting to topple the dictator because once the dictator is gone, those smaller groups re-align among each other and then fight for overall control...
 
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