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Should we go into Syria

Should we go into Syria

  • Yes, the red line has been crossed

    Votes: 23 13.9%

  • No way Jose, not our problem

    Votes: 143 86.1%
  • Total voters
    166
KevinKohler said:
I'd love to try different French cheeses, but all I ever see are Brie, which tastes like crap IMO, and Gorgonzola. While gorg is a GREAT cooking cheese, it's not a good choice for plain eating.
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Gorgonzola's Italian. Try Reblochon, Roquefort and Vacherin, as well as the Époisses.
 
AngryOldGuy said:
Well there you go, lobbin' a few cruise missiles isn't' gonna cut it.
but boots on the ground the way these incompetents would do it would be far worse!

The best course of action is inaction and...
I'm telling you
This whole thing
is nothing more than a
diversion
to get Amnesty passed?

Trust me, he never intended to do anything there in the first place
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I don't disagree that this is nothing more than a wag the dog mission, but it will cost American lives in the future if there isn't decisive action taken.

Without credible action, it will send a message to Iran, Russia, China and every other wack-job around the globe that they can do anything they want and we're just going to flap our gums. The isolationism thing doesn't work. It never has. I think that the isolationist folks are going to learn that lesson the hard way, unless Obama successfully gets the point across to the bad guys.
 
I must disagree China wants to keep selling stuff to us
Russia is a Teddy bear and dislikes the Islamo fascists more than we do
The Syrian civil war has raged on for years so far
This whole syrian thing is a dodge a distraction so they can pass amnesty
you wait n see this will be one of those: "I told you so's"
 
apdst said:
If Obama doesn't back up his smack talking, it will cost even more lives down the line.

Inaction, or token action will do nothing but embolden the bad guys around the world. John Kerry is right, "The despites of the world are listening for our silence".

While I think it was incredibly stupid for Obama to draw his friggin red line, it would be even more stupid--and dangerous--not to follow up on the threat.
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BHO is not stupid, apdst. Everything he does is for a reason. He seems to enjoy testing boundaries, and going to the UN instead of Congress for an okay on Libya, as an example, showed him how far he could go. Unfortunately for him, this time the UN disagreed with him on Syria, and that's doubtless the reason the story changed, which explains all the talking heads out there telling us that we need to handle Syria for "national security" reasons. Say what? Syria? Really? They've got their own problems with warring factions in a religious war. The Mideast has never ever been peaceful, and we aren't going to change that. Getting involved is not in America's best interest, IMO, since we have our own problems, which are many.

Kerry just told Congress that there might be American "boots on the ground" in Syria. Why? It's not our fight! :thumbdown: Just because BHO made an unfortunate comment about "lines in the sand" doesn't mean we all have to agree. I understand your argument about looking weak, but we're not, and the world knows that! The riots in the 60s on VietNam was because the people did not agree with the POTUS, and we didn't lose prestige in the eyes of the world then. Today, Wal-Mart is stocked with goods made in VietNam, and the rest of the world buys them, too. Anyway, that is my opinion. You probably don't agree, and that's your right, but that is my opinion, for what it's worth.
 
polgara said:
BHO is not stupid, apdst. Everything he does is for a reason. He seems to enjoy testing boundaries, and going to the UN instead of Congress for an okay on Libya, as an example, showed him how far he could go. Unfortunately for him, this time the UN disagreed with him on Syria, and that's doubtless the reason the story changed, which explains all the talking heads out there telling us that we need to handle Syria for "national security" reasons. Say what? Syria? Really? They've got their own problems with warring factions in a religious war. The Mideast has never ever been peaceful, and we aren't going to change that. Getting involved is not in America's best interest, IMO, since we have our own problems, which are many.

Kerry just told Congress that there might be American "boots on the ground" in Syria. Why? It's not our fight! :thumbdown: Just because BHO made an unfortunate comment about "lines in the sand" doesn't mean we all have to agree. I understand your argument about looking weak, but we're not, and the world knows that! The riots in the 60s on VietNam was because the people did not agree with the POTUS, and we didn't lose prestige in the eyes of the world then. Today, Wal-Mart is stocked with goods made in VietNam, and the rest of the world buys them, too. Anyway, that is my opinion. You probably don't agree, and that's your right, but that is my opinion, for what it's worth.
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Drawing his red line and fiddle ****ing around about making a decision is a Purdy stupid thing to do, so his intelligence is very debatable.
 
Andalublue said:
Gorgonzola's Italian. Try Reblochon, Roquefort and Vacherin, as well as the Époisses.
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Ok, is bleu cheese French? And just what is the difference between gorg and bleu cheese, aside from about 2 bucks per pound?
 
Syria is France's colony. They should take care of controlling their own subjects.
 
TiredOfLife said:
The embassy is in Tripoli, 400 miles away. And no one died there.
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So? Why does the exacting definition matter? Is that the best you have?

Could the intent be they don't know what happened in the embassy that kept rapid responses away from the consulate?

I didn't read any of the link. I just found the graphic on target.
 
Lord of Planar said:
So? Why does the exacting definition matter? Is that the best you have?

Could the intent be they don't know what happened in the embassy that kept rapid responses away from the consulate?

I didn't read any of the link. I just found the graphic on target.
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Of course you found it on target, it's a lie.
 
TiredOfLife said:
The embassy is in Tripoli, 400 miles away. And no one died there.
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however accurate that's still not only lame but no where near your usually high standards
has something served to 'cramp your style' there TOL?
or are you just tired ?
 
Lord of Planar said:
So? Why does the exacting definition matter? Is that the best you have?

Could the intent be they don't know what happened in the embassy that kept rapid responses away from the consulate?

I didn't read any of the link. I just found the graphic on target.
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at this point what difference does it make?

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we are off to blow up Syria
 
AngryOldGuy said:
however accurate that's still not only lame but no where near your usually high standards
has something served to 'cramp your style' there TOL?
or are you just tired ?
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It's been a long day so I'm just stating the not so obvious for the not so clued in.
 
AngryOldGuy said:
at this point what difference does it make?

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we are off to blow up Syria
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I agree.

Embassy... Consulate...

I am on record as to saying this will be one of the biggest mistakes ever made by our nation. You have religious factions over there killing each other. I have not seen any evidence the government is attacking villages. It looks more like gang wars where one minor leader is attacking another, and then they blame the government.
 
Lord of Planar said:
this will be one of the biggest mistakes ever made by our nation
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Not to worry nothing will happen this will all be over in two weeks and 33 million illegal aliens will have amnesty
 
AngryOldGuy said:
Not to worry nothing will happen this will all be over in two weeks and 33 million illegal aliens will have amnesty
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Yep.

We will collapse economically like the USSR did.
 
Food for thought.

Syria is getting help from Iran.

The rebels are getting help from Al-Qaeda.

Do we really want to get involved?

Something else...

Iraq and Iran are historical enemies. If general Georges Sada is to be believed (and I do believe him) then Saddam probably shipped his WMD to the rebels when it went across the border to Syria.
 
Will it matter to undecided Congressmen that major Jewish groups came out in favor of going into Syria? It will to Dems. Do you think Israel is ready for counterattacks? They are on war alert. As President Bush-43 said, bring it on.
 
I thought everyone already knew that ol Saddam shipped his stuff to Syria ;)
isn't that ancient news? (of course it helps to be ancient and paying attention these last 40+ years?)
no nimby this is all a smokescreen it will be voted down for sure and...
then...
wait for it...
 
Lord of Planar said:
Yep.

We will collapse economically like the USSR did.
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Man I hope not I'd hope we could manage to go out with a bang
not the wimpy whimper that spelled the end of the Supreme Soviets
how lame eh?
 
Lord of Planar said:
I agree.

Embassy... Consulate...

I am on record as to saying this will be one of the biggest mistakes ever made by our nation. You have religious factions over there killing each other. I have not seen any evidence the government is attacking villages. It looks more like gang wars where one minor leader is attacking another, and then they blame the government.
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Excellent Post! :thumbs:

Good evening, Lord of Planar. :2wave:
 
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