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    Re: Should we go into Syria

    Quote Originally Posted by Lord of Planar View Post
    That can't be it. the oil flow ceases or diminishes with these conflicts.
    Bumps in the road. Think long-term.

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    Re: Should we go into Syria

    Guess TOL needs a course on where the oil flows from? (hint, it ain't Syria)

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    Re: Should we go into Syria

    Quote Originally Posted by AngryOldGuy View Post
    Guess TOL needs a course on where the oil flows from? (hint, it ain't Syria)
    It ain't Wall Street either but they are very interested.

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    Re: Should we go into Syria

    Quote Originally Posted by TiredOfLife View Post
    It ain't Wall Street either but they are very interested.
    I'm just sad that Ohbammer hasn't managed to set the whole place alight yet, anything to distract from the train wreck that's just down the tracks?

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    Re: Should we go into Syria

    Quote Originally Posted by TiredOfLife View Post
    Bumps in the road. Think long-term.
    If you were thinking long-term, you would realize oil is a finite resource and that you'd better get working on some alternative energy forms unless you want to be owned by OPEC. Let's face it, the only people who profit when the price of oil rises are the members of OPEC. Why on earth some of you think America or Americans ever profit from oil is beyond my comprehension.

    The Organization of the Petroleum Exporting Countries (OPEC) was founded in Baghdad, Iraq, with the signing of an agreement in September 1960 by five countries namely Islamic Republic of Iran, Iraq, Kuwait, Saudi Arabia and Venezuela. They were to become the Founder Members of the Organization.

    These countries were later joined by Qatar (1961), Indonesia (1962), Libya (1962), the United Arab Emirates (1967), Algeria (1969), Nigeria (1971), Ecuador (1973), Gabon (1975) and Angola (2007).

    From December 1992 until October 2007, Ecuador suspended its membership. Gabon terminated its membership in 1995. Indonesia suspended its membership effective January 2009.

    Currently, the Organization has a total of 12 Member Countries.

    The OPEC Statute distinguishes between the Founder Members and Full Members - those countries whose applications for membership have been accepted by the Conference.

    The Statute stipulates that “any country with a substantial net export of crude petroleum, which has fundamentally similar interests to those of Member Countries, may become a Full Member of the Organization, if accepted by a majority of three-fourths of Full Members, including the concurring votes of all Founder Members.”

    The Statute further provides for Associate Members which are those countries that do not qualify for full membership, but are nevertheless admitted under such special conditions as may be prescribed by the Conference.

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    Re: Should we go into Syria

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    If you were thinking long-term, you would realize oil is a finite resource and that you'd better get working on some alternative energy forms unless you want to be owned by OPEC. Let's face it, the only people who profit when the price of oil rises are the members of OPEC. Why on earth some of you think America or Americans ever profit from oil is beyond my comprehension.

    The Organization of the Petroleum Exporting Countries (OPEC) was founded in Baghdad, Iraq, with the signing of an agreement in September 1960 by five countries namely Islamic Republic of Iran, Iraq, Kuwait, Saudi Arabia and Venezuela. They were to become the Founder Members of the Organization.

    These countries were later joined by Qatar (1961), Indonesia (1962), Libya (1962), the United Arab Emirates (1967), Algeria (1969), Nigeria (1971), Ecuador (1973), Gabon (1975) and Angola (2007).

    From December 1992 until October 2007, Ecuador suspended its membership. Gabon terminated its membership in 1995. Indonesia suspended its membership effective January 2009.
    Alternative energy is fine but until it is feasible we should be going after our oil instead of buying terrorist oil.

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    Re: Should we go into Syria

    Quote Originally Posted by TiredOfLife View Post
    Bumps in the road. Think long-term.
    I can conceive a several ways something may be forced. however, I don't default to conspiracy mode.

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    Re: Should we go into Syria

    Quote Originally Posted by sawyerloggingon View Post
    Alternative energy is fine but until it is feasible we should be going after our oil instead of buying terrorist oil.
    It's not "fine." We NEED to have alternative energy if we ever want energy independence.

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    Re: Should we go into Syria

    Quote Originally Posted by sawyerloggingon View Post
    Alternative energy is fine but until it is feasible we should be going after our oil instead of buying terrorist oil.
    I'm mixed on that.

    One thought is this. As long as oil isn't excessively expensive, why shouldn't we deplete theirs first? save ours for when everyone else runs out.

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    Re: Should we go into Syria

    Quote Originally Posted by Lord of Planar View Post
    I'm mixed on that.

    One thought is this. As long as oil isn't excessively expensive, why shouldn't we deplete theirs first? save ours for when everyone else runs out.
    Yes indeedy DO! heck thar's prolly more than three centuries worth of fossil fuels left in the earth. You don't have to be a grown up to realize we've not only found a multitude of ways to make burinin' dinosaurs cleaner (i.e. old enough to remember first hand what it looked like to live in a city shrouded in smog like the Chinese cities currently are) but also gaining greater efficiency in their use. I must disagree with the concept of not using our domestic sources, recent estimates show that we've MORE than enough to fuel our economy until a REAL alternative energy source(s) becomes available.

    Heck if I was King for a day (ok decade) instead of pushing stoopid corn to ethanol I'd have the coal industry be granted Tax Free status I'd promote gasification of coal AND build another 103 nuclear power plants to more than double our electric power generation capabilities. This would offset the coal being used for gasification instead of used in electricity production.

    My government instead of attacking domestic energy production would PROMOTE it. Every gallon of domestically produced petrol whether from coal or onshore and offshore drilling (I'd let the Canadians with their Athabasca oil sands in on the deal too) would be tax free to the producer and the consumer! And I'd abolish the EPA to boot! My stated goal would be fidy cent a gallon non-EPA messed up gasoline ASAP seriously do ya know how they make em reformate gas now? If auto manufacturers could develop a drivetrain that used turbo-charging to get power and at least 65 MPG I'd let them sell those cars without ANY taxes too! How about 130 octane pump gas going into a car that ran 29 psi boost (2 bar)?

    yup elect me and you'll wave good by to the Mid-East if the EU wants their oil let them fight for it America has reached energy independence and the new Mustangs and Camaros have 800+ horsepower too boot (AOG step away from the espresso machine)

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