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    Re: Should we go into Syria

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    Yes, all societies are made up of people. Machines are replaceable, but people are not. There is no such thing as a "war machine."



    It is a dehumanizing term and a term that desensitizes people to the FACT that Americans die when they go to war.



    Do you understand the hierarchy? The military does NOT tell the CIC what to do. Quite the opposite. The president is also the one responsible for appointing his advisers when it comes to military actions. Ultimately, the buck stops with him as much as you would like to blame anyone else.

    Unless Bush was the president of course, then it would be all his fault.
    You mistake me for someone attempting to give Obama a pass should he decide on war. What I'm suggesting is that he, as much as Bush and predecessors, are in the thrall of the military-industrial establishment. You think he could decide to cut military spending by 50%, withdraw military support to Israel, end arms sales to Saudi Arabia and withdraw from NATO at the stroke of a pen? He could not, even if he could get those things through Congress, he could not. He will bear a great deal of responsibility for the decisions he takes on Syria, but he will not be the only player in that decision-making. Your system of government is not a dictatorship and what the president says does not always go.
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    Re: Should we go into Syria

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    I'll ask you this. Why should Americans in particular spill blood and spend money on this particular problem when there are and have been far worse atrocities? And why do you think we should be responsible for what happens in Syria? Why not your country? Why not the UK? Why not France? Why not the UN?
    That's been exactly my point. Theres 300 countries in the world. Why is it our job to intervene in Syria? This is the UNs job. If they make a decision then we can support it.

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    Re: Should we go into Syria

    Quote Originally Posted by jonny5 View Post
    That's been exactly my point. Theres 300 countries in the world. Why is it our job to intervene in Syria? This is the UNs job. If they make a decision then we can support it.
    It's not our job. People seem to want to MAKE it our job for some reason though. It's funny how they just LOVE us when they want our help, then afterward they'll go back to being a bunch of whining bitches.

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    Re: Should we go into Syria

    It's all the Russians fault. The Rooskies fought the mujahideen in Afghanistan they fought the chechen rebels
    they as are we are in a fight with Islam, they claim to be on the side of Assad, we should be on Assad's side too
    we are all facing the same foe.
    I say let the Russians deal with it

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    Re: Should we go into Syria

    Quote Originally Posted by Coin View Post
    Even if there was going to be a dirty war, Bush knew how to make it worth and how to handle it.
    Ofc it is easier now to judge him after the many events happen and you received the feedback.

    But consider yourself on that time, before Iraq war started and how your opinion has changed.
    Obama is worst decision making leader.
    He doesn't know to make the right decision at the right moment.

    Syria is not the right decision, nor the right moment.

    Iraq wasn't the right decision, but it was in the right moment.
    ... what? If analysts are to be believed, neither Bush or anyone supervising the invasion of Iraq had mildly plausible plans of how to implement their nation building strategy. Trying to engineer a democracy in Iraq and pursuing WMD also had nothing to do with 9/11 or the War on Terror.
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    Re: Should we go into Syria

    Trying to engineer a democracy anywhere in middle east is pure folly.

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    Re: Should we go into Syria

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    We should only use our military strength when WE want to. Not when YOU or others want us to. Syria is NOT our problem. All these other countries that want "action" from the US should piss off! Handle it your damn selves.
    Haha, when's the last time all these people that want US action stretched out their hands to help pay the bill? Ask them if they would pay extra taxes to sent to the US military.
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    Re: Should we go into Syria

    Quote Originally Posted by Morality Games View Post
    ... what? If analysts are to be believed, neither Bush or anyone supervising the invasion of Iraq had mildly plausible plans of how to implement their nation building strategy. Trying to engineer a democracy in Iraq and pursuing WMD also had nothing to do with 9/11 or the War on Terror.
    Oh look, it's Bush's fault again. It never gets old with you does it?
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    Re: Should we go into Syria

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    Haha, when's the last time all these people that want US action stretched out their hands to help pay the bill? Ask them if they would pay extra taxes to sent to the US military.
    If you're referring to people in other countries, of course no one wants to help pay for it. They want us to make all the sacrifices and then they will hate us afterwards.

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