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    Re: Should we go into Syria

    Quote Originally Posted by Coin View Post
    If he had to move quickly, it was about 2 years ago. He had even the morale to strike on Syria. 2012 was most deadly year on Syria and still no one cared at all.
    Attacking now is so pointless and have no more reasons/morale.
    Besides of that no proves are yet on space if govern used chemical weapons.
    What's the bad if Assad win over rebels?
    Syrians themselves will judge the regime.
    The Syrian rebels came from nowhere and Syrian people are not supporting them.


    I agree that we should have become more involved two years ago.. They say that they do have intelligence that the Syrian Regime launched the chemical weapons... We are going to strike to punish them and deter them and others from ever doing it again. No, it was the Syrian people themselves, who were protesting against the regime and were attacked and killed for doing so...They then became the rebels.. Unfortunately, other groups from outside the country have now become involved.. If the rebels lose, a whole lot of people died for nothing...

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    Re: Should we go into Syria

    Quote Originally Posted by Morality Games View Post
    The United States is weak and vulnerable, which is why this isn't easy.


    The United States is neither weak nor vulnerable, we just appear that way to our enemies....Hopefully, that will change.

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    Re: Should we go into Syria

    Quote Originally Posted by NIMBY View Post
    And he can't get them home anyway. They won't come back to D.C.

    Obama had a conference call with 26 of them today. That's not good enough.

    Would you trust M. Bachmann with state secrets?

    He needs to listen to people like Republican Rep. Rogers, one who can be trusted.


    I thought that Rogers made a lot of sense today...

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    Re: Should we go into Syria

    Quote Originally Posted by Juanita View Post
    The United States is neither weak nor vulnerable, we just appear that way to our enemies....Hopefully, that will change.
    In terms of the challenges of the 21st century we are definitely weak and vulnerable relative to our size. Our economic relations (particularly with China) are extremely toxic, but we are dependent on them and can't resist their aggressive push for power in East's political and and economic system (or in Latin America and the Middle East). Anti-Americanism is an influential and often defining attribute of our allies' political dynamics that affects their ability to cooperate with us. The burden of defense and global economic stability falls with us and the outcomes are always criticized. The socio-economic elite manipulate our economic dependencies to lobby more influence and push fiscally reckless "pro growth" agendas and stick the common man with the bill.

    We have lots of new powerful enemies, lots of old ones, massive amounts of debt, no real economic future, few real allies, etc. The new theatres of war, cyber-electronics and industrial espionage, are comparatively cheap methods of combat that level the playing field between formerly uneven powers.
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    Re: Should we go into Syria

    Quote Originally Posted by Morality Games View Post
    In terms of the challenges of the 21st century we are definitely weak and vulnerable relative to our size. Our economic relations (particularly with China) are extremely toxic, but we are dependent on them and can't resist their aggressive push for power in East's political and and economic system (or in Latin America and the Middle East). Anti-Americanism is an influential and often defining attribute of our allies' political dynamics that affects their ability to cooperate with us. The burden of defense and global economic stability falls with us and the outcomes are always criticized. The socio-economic elite manipulate our economic dependencies to lobby more influence and push fiscally reckless "pro growth" agendas and stick the common man with the bill.

    We have lots of new powerful enemies, lots of old ones, massive amounts of debt, no real economic future, few real allies, etc. The new theatres of war, cyber-electronics and industrial espionage, are comparatively cheap methods of combat that level the playing field between formerly uneven powers.


    Actually, I agree with a lot of what you said and we are already at war in cyberspace, but actual war is not behind us as yet...

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    Re: Should we go into Syria

    Quote Originally Posted by Morality Games View Post
    The United States is weak and vulnerable,
    The world's only Superpower is powerless? Well that makes sense to me. Guess we should be terrified.

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    Re: Should we go into Syria

    Syria will be third muslim country in a row. Iran will most likely be the fourth muslim country. The fifth I can't say for sure. Maybe trouble makers are all in muslim countries.

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    Re: Should we go into Syria

    Quote Originally Posted by Morality Games View Post
    And what exactly is that supposed to mean? People have been criticizing Bush for setting policies that exposed our limitations and weaknesses since the build up to the Iraq War. It's a staple part of his legacy that his wars were unsuccessful efforts at creating two pro-West democracies, one of which is being pushed into Iran's camp by its newly empowered Shi'a majority and the other of which is being overtaken by the Taliban at a grassroots level. At best, Iran will be partitioned between Shi'a, Sunnis, and Kurds so that the entire population and its industries don't wind up in Iran's court, and the Taliban will focus on drugs rather than Islamic radicalism.
    Even if there was going to be a dirty war, Bush knew how to make it worth and how to handle it.
    Ofc it is easier now to judge him after the many events happen and you received the feedback.

    But consider yourself on that time, before Iraq war started and how your opinion has changed.
    Obama is worst decision making leader.
    He doesn't know to make the right decision at the right moment.

    Syria is not the right decision, nor the right moment.

    Iraq wasn't the right decision, but it was in the right moment.
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    Re: Should we go into Syria

    The red line has been crossed but by whom?
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    Re: Should we go into Syria

    The foreign ministry of Dardania has declared that the UN should urgently examine and intervene if necessary to the crisis in Syria where it is suspected that chemical weapons may have been used (see references).

    I think Assad so contrary to his innocent looks is a criminal to have used gas against civilians. We dealt with Milloschevich in 1999 and now liberated I think now we can join the liberation train to liberate other countries. I think it is Assad's turn to go. The difference between 1999 and 2013 is more freeing allies (i.e., us included) will be after him now.

    References:

    Hoxhaj: International community to intervene in Syria - News - Ministry of Foreign Affairs - Kosovo

    Hoxhaj: Siria ngjall kujtimet e Kosovės - Top Channel
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    Stats come out and always show life getting better. News makes money in making you think its not.
    The Republic of Dardania is the proper name for: http://www.debatepolitics.com/europe...ification.html

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