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    Re: Should we go into Syria

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    Heya WM. They are a major culprit in this.....Just like they were with Libya. It was the French who First Officially recognized the Libyan TNC. Then it was them doing the same with the FSA.
    Now its the French out front with their Foot in their Mouth again. Wanting others to get involved and do something.

    How about the French take their ass over there and they do something ALL by themselves. For Once in the last 200 years. Don't talk the talk. Go and show the World if they can Actually muster up on their own. Don't ya just luv that part.....the World has to do something. But not troops on the ground.

    France: World Must Respond if Syria Used Chemical Weapons .....

    France says the international community must respond with force if opposition allegations that Syrian forces used chemical weapons in an attack near Damascus prove true.

    But French Foreign Minister Laurent Fabius on Thursday ruled out the use of ground troops.

    Turkish Foreign Minister Ahmet Davutoglu is also urging international action, saying a "red line" has been crossed in Syria.

    Activists say Syrian forces launched new bombing attacks Thursday in the eastern Ghouta area, where a day earlier the opposition accused government troops of killing many civilians with chemical weapons.....snip~

    France: World Must Respond if Syria Used Chemical Weapons
    VOA 6hrs ago <<<<< More here.
    The French, for all we love to mock them, are a nuclear nation with a military. Let them go in and we can throw them our moral support.

    Vive La France. Go tigers.

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    Re: Should we go into Syria

    Quote Originally Posted by sawyerloggingon View Post
    I hadn't heard that, you have a link?
    Yep SL .....check it out.

    UN says there are strong suspicions Syria’s rebels have used chemical weapons.....

    Former war crimes prosecutor Carla Del Ponte said a UN commission has indications that Syrian rebel forces used nerve agent sarin as a weapon in their fight against Assad’s regime – but no evidence that government forces also used sarin as a chemical weapon.

    Del Ponte is on the U.N.’s four-member independent human rights panel probing alleged war crimes and other abuses in Syria. She told Italian-language Swiss public broadcaster SRI in an interview broadcast Sunday night that the indications are based on interviews with victims, doctors and field hospitals in neighboring countries.

    The panel’s investigators have “strong, concrete suspicions but not yet incontrovertible proof of the use of sarin gas, from the way the victims were treated,” said del Ponte.

    Syria chemical weapons: UN says Syrian rebels used sarin | National Post

    Reuters) – U.N. human rights investigators have gathered testimony from casualties of Syria’s civil war and medical staff indicating that rebel forces have used the nerve agent sarin, one of the lead investigators said on Sunday.

    The United Nations independent commission of inquiry on Syria has not yet seen evidence of government forces having used chemical weapons, which are banned under international law, said commission member Carla Del Ponte.

    “Our investigators have been in neighboring countries interviewing victims, doctors and field hospitals and, according to their report of last week which I have seen, there are strong, concrete suspicions but not yet incontrovertible proof of the use of sarin gas, from the way the victims were treated,” Del Ponte said in an interview with Swiss-Italian television.

    “This was use on the part of the opposition, the rebels, not by the government authorities,” she added, speaking in Italian.

    The Grendel Report: U.N. says Syrian rebels used chem weapons, Dem says arm rebels (naturally)

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    Re: Should we go into Syria

    Quote Originally Posted by OscarB63 View Post
    France needs to just STFU. When's the last time they actually did anything?
    Heya Oscar. I know the feeling. They not only outplayed Susan Rice when she was our UN Ambassador. But have repeatedly been filing resolutions in the UN over Syria and Libyan. They do like sticking their nose into other peoples business. Course they did get caught with the people inside Syria once already.

    France warns Syria of forceful response over chemical weapon claims....

    France has raised the prospect of the use of force against the Syrian government if allegations of its use of chemical weapons are proved.

    The French foreign minister, Laurent Fabius, said on Thursday that if the regime was shown to be responsible for the massacre, "we need a reaction by the international community … a reaction of force". He ruled out the deployment of foreign ground troops but added "a reaction that can take a form, I don't want to be more precise, of force" – raising the possibility of air strikes by western powers.

    Hundreds of civilians are known to have died in the attack on Ghouta, a rebel-held area in the Damascus suburbs, and the death toll continues to rise as more bodies are found.

    In London, a Foreign Office spokeswoman said the UK would not rule out any option in its response to the latest massacre.....snip~

    France warns Syria of forceful response over chemical weapon claims | World news | theguardian.com

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    Re: Should we go into Syria

    Quote Originally Posted by sawyerloggingon View Post
    Well Obama's red line has been crossed and we went into Libya for far less so what do you think? "Residents of Damascus suburbs recount massive assault by Assad army; videos show small children convulsing on the floor, foaming at the nose and mouth. Doctor: Injuries correspond with sarin gas "
    "The men, women and children lying undisturbed in their beds had looked so peaceful they might have been just sleeping, Abu Nidal thought, as he and other rescuers dragged their bodies into the street."

    "His was one of many accounts of a massive assault on the eastern suburbs of Damascus that activists say killed more than 500 people on Wednesday morning. They say some of the bombs were loaded with chemical agent, which would make it the worst chemical attack since the conflict began"
    Syrians retrieve 'sleeping' dead after alleged chemical attack - Israel News, Ynetnews
    Only if Russia can somehow be convinced to give its "okay".
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    Re: Should we go into Syria

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    Heya Oscar. I know the feeling. They not only outplayed Susan Rice when she was our UN Ambassador. But have repeatedly been filing resolutions in the UN over Syria and Libyan. They do like sticking their nose into other peoples business. Course they did get caught with the people inside Syria once already.

    France warns Syria of forceful response over chemical weapon claims....

    France has raised the prospect of the use of force against the Syrian government if allegations of its use of chemical weapons are proved.

    The French foreign minister, Laurent Fabius, said on Thursday that if the regime was shown to be responsible for the massacre, "we need a reaction by the international community … a reaction of force". He ruled out the deployment of foreign ground troops but added "a reaction that can take a form, I don't want to be more precise, of force" – raising the possibility of air strikes by western powers.

    Hundreds of civilians are known to have died in the attack on Ghouta, a rebel-held area in the Damascus suburbs, and the death toll continues to rise as more bodies are found.

    In London, a Foreign Office spokeswoman said the UK would not rule out any option in its response to the latest massacre.....snip~

    France warns Syria of forceful response over chemical weapon claims | World news | theguardian.com
    many years ago, when I was much younger and cruder (if you can believe that) we had a French guy visit our lab. We went out to dinner after work and he was running his mouth talking **** about America and American's. I just looked at him and said "I'm sorry, could you repeat that in English? I don't speak fag".
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    Re: Should we go into Syria

    Quote Originally Posted by CRUE CAB View Post
    WWIII has been raging for 60 years already.
    Well if that's the Case.....then the rest of the World, only needs to understand one thing. I(we, USA) will be the one.


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    Re: Should we go into Syria

    The problem with France is they sorta have this chip on their shoulder about being at least second best...at everything. What do they make that I, or anyone else, actually wants?

    The Italians ROCK them in food. Cheese? I'll take 1,000 day Gouda over anything the French bring to the table. Brie tastes just like it smells...a foot. It's why they have to put pastry all over it. And frankly, nothing rivals mozzarella for taste and versatility.

    Everyone except Russia kicks their buts in cars. I need to own a Peugeot like I need herpes.

    Wine? Sorry, but our own Nappa valley kicks them in the balls. Italy ain't so bad in that dept, either. And then there are German ice wines. Tasty.

    What else they got? What exactly is France's contribution to the world market?
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    Re: Should we go into Syria

    Quote Originally Posted by KevinKohler View Post
    The problem with France is they sorta have this chip on their shoulder about being at least second best...at everything. What do they make that I, or anyone else, actually wants?

    The Italians ROCK them in food. Cheese? I'll take 1,000 day Gouda over anything the French bring to the table. Brie tastes just like it smells...a foot. It's why they have to put pastry all over it. And frankly, nothing rivals mozzarella for taste and versatility.

    Everyone except Russia kicks their buts in cars. I need to own a Peugeot like I need herpes.

    Wine? Sorry, but our own Nappa valley kicks them in the balls. Italy ain't so bad in that dept, either. And then there are German ice wines. Tasty.

    What else they got? What exactly is France's contribution to the world market?
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    Re: Should we go into Syria

    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaJohn View Post
    The problem with Syria is that there was nobody leading for Obama to follow - unlike in Libya where the French led a NATO involvement. Likewise, in Egypt and Iran before it, there's nobody for Obama to follow so he's completely neutralized/paralyzed.

    Say what you want about middle eastern views of America under Bush, they were never as bad as they are now under this excuse of a President.

    The only hope for Obama to get engaged in a matter related to the middle east is if one of their sports teams wins a championship, then he can wine and dine them at the White House. Celebrity hostess is his true calling.
    They were worse under Bush than Obama.

    Nothing quite like invading/controlling two countries and then failing to assist them, not only once, but twice.
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    Re: Should we go into Syria

    Quote Originally Posted by KevinKohler View Post
    What else they got? What exactly is France's contribution to the world market?
    The French Revolution ... and French women.

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