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    Re: Should we go into Syria

    Quote Originally Posted by Painter View Post
    I do not disagree about your description of Putin.
    BUT... Without Putin, we stand no hope of preventing Iran from achieving nuclear weapons.
    We can not even handle a war with Iran. Our military can. Our gas pumps can not.
    And God only knows where a war with Iran will lead.

    We need to do just the opposite. It is time to stop the pissing match with Putin and work on what matters.
    Russia still has thousands of unsecure nuclear weapons in all sorts of various stages of disarmament.
    If Iran even gets closer to having a weapon, the entire Middle East will want a weapon too.


    Apparently you haven't noticed that nothing will prevent Iran from achieving their goal of having nuclear weapons, unless it is the U.S. and Israel.. Russia would be happy to have their ally, Iran, go nuclear..so that is no reason to bow to Moscow on the Syrian issue.. Putin has an agenda and we weren't invited to the party, so they really don't want a problem with us--yet.... I just read an article in the L.A. Times where Turkey intercepted a N. Korean ship carrying arms and "gas masks" for the Syrian Regime...what does that tell you? We must stop them before they gas the whole dam country....

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    Re: Should we go into Syria

    Quote Originally Posted by Juanita View Post
    .......you're probably right.. There is more to worry about with Hezbollah retaliating against Israel, who is ready for it I'm sure..
    I'm not terribly worried about Hezbollah retaliating against Israel for two reasons:

    1. Israel can handle herself. Look up "Iron Dome", if you like.
    2. Hezbollah is rather busy, at the moment. Turns out they are embroiled (who knew) in a civil war in Syria.

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    Re: Should we go into Syria

    Quote Originally Posted by Juanita View Post
    I just read an article in the L.A. Times where Turkey intercepted a N. Korean ship carrying arms and "gas masks" for the Syrian Regime...what does that tell you? We must stop them before they gas the whole dam country....
    And the Turkish authorities would have no reason for fabricating that story, would they?
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    Re: Should we go into Syria

    Quote Originally Posted by Higgins86 View Post
    and what about the Syrians are they following international law?
    Syria not even being accused by the administration of breaking international law. The Obama administration is accusing Syria of breaking international "norms" whatever the heck that's supposed to mean.

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    Re: Should we go into Syria

    From what I'm seeing in tge news, it looks like there's going to be an air raid(s) this week. I'm concerned a out what coud go wrong:

    1. In the spirit of the Middle Eastern dictator human shields, what if Assad makes some lucky guesses and intentionally places a bunch of chemical stockpiles at targets that we strike? Massive secondary explosions of chemical bombs triggered by the US Military. Add some anti-American middle eastern propaganda and its the Great Satan killing tens of thousands of Arabs in its war on Islam under the hypocritical guise of bringing freedom to Syria in or ther to clear the land of people so we can take their oil without much of a native population to deal with. FYI: the generally accepted perception of the US in that part of the world is regardless of our stated goal, ultimately any and all US military action in the Middle East is motivated by oil.h

    2. Inadvertently joining forces with radical extremists that could lead to an Al Qaeda controlled Syruan government. Its pitiful but in Middle Eastern geo-politics there are often no good guys.

    3. Doomsday spoil sport reaction that could lead to attacks on friendly countries in the region.
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    Re: Should we go into Syria

    Quote Originally Posted by Painter View Post
    Syria is a distraction. Yes I know it seems cold to not care about the victims of chemical attack and etc. And it is not that I do not care.
    But it is distracting our leaders from the big picture.

    We absolutely MUST stop nuclear proliferation. And we must stop Iran from acquiring nuclear weapons. To do EITHER, we MUST have Russia on board.
    Obama is massively failing at the main objective.
    Syria will drive an even further wedge between the United States and Russia and move us farther from the main goal of stopping the proliferation of Nuclear Arms.
    You can forget that, Iran is a huge customer.
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    Re: Should we go into Syria

    Quote Originally Posted by obvious Child View Post
    The downside of doing nothing is that the Global Community sends the message to dictators that it's fine to use weapons of mass destruction on civilian populations. Effectively, we reduce our global commitments and treaties to little more than ink on paper, that we are not willing to enforce them when push comes to shove. This threatens the very foundation of global interactions. When you abandon the framework that leaders in the past have worked hard to agree to, what makes any agreement in the future worth doing when push comes to shove, we simply just drop it?

    No country wants to get involved, but doing nothing reveals that such weapon bans and global agreements on human rights mean absolutely nothing.

    The extent of our actions should however, be limited to cruise missiles. Let the Europeans handle the rest.
    I agree with only your last statement. I don't care about what the rest of the world "thinks." Also, we should only ever help our TRUE allies. Let somebody else take care of it. I'm sick of being the world police. I want them to just leave us the hell alone!!! Go cry to someone else for help for once.

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    Re: Should we go into Syria

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    I agree with only your last statement. I don't care about what the rest of the world "thinks." Also, we should only ever help our TRUE allies. Let somebody else take care of it. I'm sick of being the world police. I want them to just leave us the hell alone!!! Go cry to someone else for help for once.
    Our survival as a country is reliant on stability in regions of the world with significant oil reserves. Beyond the human rights argument, our vital interests are at stake. A disruption in the free flow of middle eastern oil reverberates world wide and could bring this country's economy to a screeching halt at the worse possible time, even if most of the oil we use comes from other places due to its affect on GLOBAL supplies. If we were talking about a conflict in the Congo, because there is no US vital interest concern there all we would need to do is show love for and be concerned about the people. In the Middle East we have to be concerned about the domestic US economic impact.
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    Re: Should we go into Syria

    Quote Originally Posted by Smeagol View Post
    Our survival as a country is reliant on stability in regions of the world with significant oil reserves. Beyond the human rights argument, our vital interests are at stake. A disruption in the free flow of middle eastern oil reverberates world wide and could bring this country's economy to a screeching halt at the worse possible time, even if most of the oil we use comes from other places due to its affect on GLOBAL supplies. If we were talking about a conflict in the Congo, because there is no US vital interest concern there all we would need to do is show love for and be concerned about the people. In the Middle East we have to be concerned about the domestic US economic impact.
    That's bull. We only get a very small percentage of our oil from the ME. Most of our oil comes from Venezuela and Canada. Syria is of MUCH more concern to the Brits. Let THEM deal with it.

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    Re: Should we go into Syria

    Quote Originally Posted by Higgins86 View Post
    Really? Do you know how foreign policy works?

    The minute you start backing down and going back on your word your enemies pounce on it.



    Anyone on this planet who doesn't like the fact that the USA and its allies are going to punish

    Syria for using chemical weapons on its own citizens will just have to grit their teeth and deal with it.

    This will be a good lesson not just for Syria, but for the rest of the evildoers on this planet.

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