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    Re: Should we go into Syria

    Quote Originally Posted by Caine View Post
    I give two ****s about what other nations think about his honor. There will be another President that comes along eventually. Supporting Sending American troops to die defending our honor because a President opened his stupid mouth is the stupidest thing I can think of.
    As I said before .... I don't want one set of our boots on the ground either. I want us to rain down the horror of all living hell on the users of poison gas, and let the Red Cross or the French clean up the mess. Not one from either side of this conflict is worth one US life. No Americans need die.

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    Re: Should we go into Syria

    Quote Originally Posted by Objective Voice View Post
    First and foremost, we must remember that Syria is in the midst of a CIVIL WAR! That means it's THEIR national problem, not America's!! I don't think that point can be stressed enough.

    Second, unless you can get an international coalition around the humanitarian issues, i.e., civilian flight (refugees) to surrounding countries, you can't possibly hope to get enough support for international military intervention.

    Third, and most important, you have to have proof that the Syrian government sanctioned the use of chemical weapons. Reports are that the alleged use of chemical weapons was done by the Syrian rebels. So, I would hope everyone takes a step back from all the rhetoric and try to really listen to what's being said in the media as well as by public officials.

    To answer the question, "Should we (USA) go into Syria?" Only if it can be proven that chemical weapons were used AND sanctioned by the Syrian government AND ONLY as part of an international military force with the U.N. leading the charge. America is NOT the police force for the world!
    Russia and China say no to intervention. especially Russia with it's only Mediterranean port there

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    Re: Should we go into Syria

    Quote Originally Posted by Caine View Post
    I give two ****s about what other nations think about his honor. There will be another President that comes along eventually. Supporting Sending American troops to die defending our honor because a President opened his stupid mouth is the stupidest thing I can think of.
    You beat me to the punch.

    I could give two ****'s about Obama's honor when it comes to matters of life and death of my children or my neighbor's children. The only honor I am concerned with is my honor. And my honor, or what people think of me, as important as it is to me personally, is not justification to take the lives of your children or the fruits of your labor.

    I do believe that honor has it's place but the days of John Wayne bravado and chivalry have been replaced with logic, common sense and the dictates of reason. I mean, that old school swagger is great for selling manly cigarettes, but it has no place on the global war theater. Pride should never supersede intelligence.

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    Re: Should we go into Syria

    Quote Originally Posted by Woodman909 View Post
    As I said before .... I don't want one set of our boots on the ground either. I want us to rain down the horror of all living hell on the users of poison gas, and let the Red Cross or the French clean up the mess. Not one from either side of this conflict is worth one US life. No Americans need die.
    Woodman gets to the nub.
    Along the same lines, we should not have been involved with Libya or Egypt because of residual effects.

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    Re: Should we go into Syria

    Quote Originally Posted by Caine View Post
    I give two ****s about what other nations think about his honor. There will be another President that comes along eventually. Supporting Sending American troops to die defending our honor because a President opened his stupid mouth is the stupidest thing I can think of.
    I don't think anyone suggested such a thing. We are just noting what a doofus he is when it comes to foreign affairs. A complete and utter doofus with no understanding that these "men" from the ME have been playing him for a fool and laughing at him, and now he's accomplished the almost impossible feat of making the United States look even MORE weak.

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    Re: Should we go into Syria

    Quote Originally Posted by Gardener View Post
    we fail to recognize the effect of all that Arab inbreeding.
    So, you're saying it's a bit like Norfolk or Alabama.
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    Re: Should we go into Syria

    Quote Originally Posted by sawyerloggingon View Post
    Well Obama's red line has been crossed and we went into Libya for far less so what do you think? "Residents of Damascus suburbs recount massive assault by Assad army; videos show small children convulsing on the floor, foaming at the nose and mouth. Doctor: Injuries correspond with sarin gas "
    "The men, women and children lying undisturbed in their beds had looked so peaceful they might have been just sleeping, Abu Nidal thought, as he and other rescuers dragged their bodies into the street."

    "His was one of many accounts of a massive assault on the eastern suburbs of Damascus that activists say killed more than 500 people on Wednesday morning. They say some of the bombs were loaded with chemical agent, which would make it the worst chemical attack since the conflict began"
    Syrians retrieve 'sleeping' dead after alleged chemical attack - Israel News, Ynetnews
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    Re: Should we go into Syria

    Quote Originally Posted by WCH View Post
    Russia and China say no to intervention. especially Russia with it's only Mediterranean port there
    But China has condemned the use of chemical weapons. Russia, on the other hand, simply wants to be the antagonist.
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    Re: Should we go into Syria

    Quote Originally Posted by Objective Voice View Post
    To answer the question, "Should we (USA) go into Syria?" Only if it can be proven that chemical weapons were used AND sanctioned by the Syrian government AND ONLY as part of an international military force with the U.N. leading the charge. America is NOT the police force for the world!
    So you require the approval of others to do the right thing?

    What do you think the likelihood of a government currently engaged in eliminating large portions of its' populace sanctioning others coming in to stop it is?

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    Re: Should we go into Syria

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    So you require the approval of others to do the right thing?

    What do you think the likelihood of a government currently engaged in eliminating large portions of its' populace sanctioning others coming in to stop it is?
    Hey cpwill, I have an article I'd like you to check out on the other Syria thread if you wouldn't mind. I'm interested in your opinion.

    http://www.debatepolitics.com/breaki...post1062231460

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