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    Re: Should we go into Syria

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    I think we are still stronger in the military sense. That's why it's important IMO to not cut military spending. Our federal government is obligated to protect us and given all the turmoil that's going on in the world now, it would incredibly irresponsible to cut military spending IMO.
    You spend more on your military than the next 13 countries combined. Given what we know about over-charging and inefficiency in military procurement, there's a huge amount of slack in the US military. As you can see from this WaPo article, taking out the specific costs of ongoing funding for the operations in Iraq and Afghanistan, the military has been spending more and more, year-on-year at a time when other areas of government are cutting back to the bone.

    I fail to see what greater threats the US is facing now than it was 10 years ago. What argument do you think exists for ring-fencing military spending against the austerity measures that every other sector is having to face?
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    Re: Should we go into Syria

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    I don't really think China is hurting so bad.

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    Considering we are holding most of their debt ourselves? Yeah its pretty bad, China isn't even our largest lender.
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    Re: Should we go into Syria

    It breaks my heart to see all those dead people lined up against the wall. Especially the children. I wish I could just wave my magic wand and make it stop.

    But, that being said, I remind myself, that WAY to many Syrians, be they rebel or not, would revel in viewing our children shrouded against a wall.

    I understand all the bravado I have read in this thread. I understand the view that America is losing it's big-stick "bad-ass" image of dominance by not puffing out it's chest and sending in the Marines.

    I also understand that as long as Russia has the Syrian Government's back, it's a lot more to it than just going in and bitch slapping a bunch of despotic middle-easterner's.

    I know it just KILLS some folks here to not take advantage of a perfectly good reason to go to war.

    But I say that we stay out of Syria. And, looking at the poll at the time I voted, 9 out of 10 people agree with me. I hope the president is listening to us and keeps us out of Syria.

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    Re: Should we go into Syria

    Quote Originally Posted by Andalublue View Post
    You spend more on your military than the next 13 countries combined. Given what we know about over-charging and inefficiency in military procurement, there's a huge amount of slack in the US military. As you can see from this WaPo article, taking out the specific costs of ongoing funding for the operations in Iraq and Afghanistan, the military has been spending more and more, year-on-year at a time when other areas of government are cutting back to the bone.

    I fail to see what greater threats the US is facing now than it was 10 years ago. What argument do you think exists for ring-fencing military spending against the austerity measures that every other sector is having to face?
    None of that matters. Military spending is one of the few true responsibilities of the federal government, unlike a lot of other areas the feds like to involve themselves with.

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    Re: Should we go into Syria

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    None of that matters. Military spending is one of the few true responsibilities of the federal government, unlike a lot of other areas the feds like to involve themselves with.
    I believe the federal government has many true responsibilities, and maintaining a bloated, inefficient military, and opposing any attempts to streamline it, doesn't seem to be a responsible use of tax dollars. But hey! They're not my tax dollars. If that's what the American people want, that's up to them.
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    Re: Should we go into Syria

    Quote Originally Posted by WCH View Post
    I think Putin is calling Obama's bluff and it's working.

    They see the US as weak and vulnerable.


    They see us as a paper tiger because our leader has no balls, no intelligence and no experience.

    An empty suit.
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    Re: Should we go into Syria

    Quote Originally Posted by Andalublue View Post
    I believe the federal government has many true responsibilities, and maintaining a bloated, inefficient military, and opposing any attempts to streamline it, doesn't seem to be a responsible use of tax dollars. But hey! They're not my tax dollars. If that's what the American people want, that's up to them.
    I think it's very wise given the current turmoil in the world. Why would I or anyone want a weakened military?

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    Re: Should we go into Syria

    Quote Originally Posted by code1211 View Post
    They see us as a paper tiger because our leader has no balls, no intelligence and no experience.

    An empty suit.
    Good analysis.
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    Re: Should we go into Syria

    Quote Originally Posted by CRUE CAB View Post
    Do we have the disposable billions to join that fight?


    It looks to me like the muslims are killing everyone, the Persians are Killing the Arabs and all around vice versa.

    If all of our enemies are killing each other, who are we to try and stop them from succeeding in their holy work?

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    Re: Should we go into Syria

    Quote Originally Posted by P. Kersey View Post
    Right..we can't/won't secure our OWN borders but we need to go halfway around the world to secure a foreign country's borders...great idea...

    and then, unbelievably, there's THIS;

    Obama administration and Mexican government officials recently discussed creating a three-tier security system designed to protect Mexico’s southern border from drug and human traffickers, according to U.S. officials.

    The border control plan calls for U.S. funding and technical support of three security lines extending more than 100 miles north of Mexico’s border with Guatemala and Belize. The border security system would use sensors and intelligence-gathering to counter human trafficking and drug running from the region, a major source of illegal immigration into the United States.


    Obama Administration Considers Plan to Bolster Mexico

    we truly are an idiocracy/ineptocracy
    As far as I can tell, that isn't true. Should doublecheck your sources. Just because it's on the internet doesn't make it true. Be especially wary of "news" you read on partisan sites, whether left or right.

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