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Thread: Why does Society Hate Families? Part II

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    Re: Why does Society Hate Families? Part II

    I'm bored with this subject.
    You do what you see fit, and I'll do what I see fit. Savvy?
    If it's still eating away at you, why don't you go post something nasty about me in the basement thread you started for that purpose?
    It's obvious nobody else is interested in doing so, despite your rather desperate encouragement.

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    Re: Why does Society Hate Families? Part II

    Quote Originally Posted by 1069 View Post
    Good for you.
    Now accept that my life is perfect for me and best for my kids, and move the fvck on.
    Quote Originally Posted by 1069 View Post
    I'm bored with this subject.
    You do what you see fit, and I'll do what I see fit. Savvy?
    If it's still eating away at you, why don't you go post something nasty about me in the basement thread you started for that purpose?
    It's obvious nobody else is interested in doing so, despite your rather desperate encouragement.
    no response, out of respect for Captain Courtesy & STACE

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    How the hell did you just tie in a retroactive reparative measure with a proactive preventative measure. Not even close to being the same thing.

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    Re: Why does Society Hate Families? Part II

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    no response, out of respect for Captain Courtesy & STACE
    Much respect and thanks.
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    Re: Why does Society Hate Families? Part II

    Originally Posted by 1069
    Good for you.
    Now accept that my life is perfect for me and best for my kids, and move the fvck on.
    Originally Posted by 1069
    I'm bored with this subject.
    You do what you see fit, and I'll do what I see fit. Savvy?
    If it's still eating away at you, why don't you go post something nasty about me in the basement thread you started for that purpose?
    It's obvious nobody else is interested in doing so, despite your rather desperate encouragement.
    I am shocked!

    If you truly wanted to, "move the fvck on" you would just do so, rather than to attack all of my posts regarding this subject as well as any other that disagreed with you...

    All you do is talk ****, except for you one, and rather unusal attempt to communicate...

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    Well, now that we've all psychoanalyzed one another to a frazzle, it appears we're some justifying motherfvckers around here.
    In this corner, we've got Rivrrat, attempting to "justify" her selfish life of a swingin' single chick.
    In that corner, we've got 1069, "justifying" neglecting her kids by working outside her home.
    Over here we've got Stace, attempting to "justify" why her lazy arse doesn't go out and get a job.
    Over there, we've got Mikhail, "justifying" his obsession with phone sex.
    Over here, the Cap'n, "justifying" his selfishly childless state.
    Over there, we've got Tallou, trying to justify being a "stay-at-home mom" to children who are in school all day.
    Over there, Botisatva, justifying his voyeuristic passion for poking his prurient shnozz into everybody else's bidness, not to mention his curious relationship with the sycophantic Johnny Utah.

    Boy, I sure am glad we engaged in this orgy of self-justification.
    I feel justified.
    How about y'all? Do you feel justified?


    THAT was some funny stuff...

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    I do. That sucks...I can empathize.
    And although I've had nearly a decade and a half to absorb and assimilate the "lesson", I cannot for the life of me tell you what it was supposed to have taught me. That is part of life...we don't always know nor do we think that there is always a lessonHas it made me a better parent to my now-fully-recovered child? Probably
    Not really. I bet it did It made me overprotective and overbearing to the point that he had no choice but to rebel, no choice but to become deceitful and sneaky, since I allowed him no breathing room. That was HIS choice... we all learn our own lessons in life.
    The lesson I am now learning- being forced to learn- is how to let go. We all are learning that one
    All parents have to learn it eventually; parents of a child who was once critically ill no doubt have a harder time with it than most. Yep
    I look at my six-foot-tall son, a boy in a man's body, and I see a critically ill infant who will die without my constant, 24-hour vigilance, and might die even with it.
    This infuriates him. He doesn't remember being that baby, of course, and he doesn't want to be constantly associated with it. He doesn't remember ever being anything but tough and strong and healthy, and he doesn't want any reminders that he was ever fragile and desperately ill. He doesn't want or need my constant vigilance, my protection. He wants to be acknowledged and respected as the independent near-adult that he is. His previous health problems make this difficult for me.

    But there's nothing I learned from this experience that would necessarily be applicable or useful to another parent of a critically ill child. You just are not applying yourself...of course there are things that applicable and useful to another parent of a critically ill child
    There's no secret knowledge that only you and I- as parents of critically ill children- are privy to. Sure there is... We have little in common, I bet we have more in common than you would care to admit... and we don't seem to agree on much. I agree with you on more than you would like to hear, you just don't see it since I remain quite. All I see is you attack me. Touche' Going through similar experiences apparently left us with entirely different viewpoints. Perhaps

    It's that way with everything; everything in life. Yep
    My experiences are not applicable to anyone but me, and neither are anyone else's. And two people can go through the exact same experience, and learn two totally different lessons from it. Yep, but they also learn overlapping themes

    I, for instance, have never considered parenting either a "job" or a "profession", and I already stated that on another thread. It's life. It's not "a profession" (which would indicate that you could stop doing it at some point). Neither do I. That was just a bad metaphore
    It's no more a profession than being female or having brown hair is a "profession". It's who and what I am. It's not a job- it's my life. Being a parent is not a job, either. It's who and what I am.
    I understand how it may seem like a "job" to new parents, to parents whose children are still infants... but that's because they do not yet realize how long forever is.
    I don't think, in a decade or two, they will still think of parenting the same way (although i could be wrong).

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    Re: Why does Society Hate Families? Part II

    Originally Posted by 1069
    I apologize, Cap'n (and anybody else who was offended), but I'm tired of hearing
    people accuse one another of trying to "justify" their lives.
    Nobody needs to "justify" jack****e, as far as I'm concerned.
    I'm sure everyone is doing as they see fit, and that's all the "justification" that's necessary.
    Trying to justify your justifications?

    People need to quit judging, is what they need to do.
    H.Y.P.O.C.R.I.T.E.

    If they were truly so deliriously happy with their own lives and choices, I doubt they'd be expending so much time and energy on judging the lives of others.
    Well, we all know how unhappy you are, so that explains why you expend so much time and energy on judging the lives of others.

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    Re: Why does Society Hate Families? Part II

    Quote Originally Posted by Johnny_Utah View Post
    Trying to justify your justifications?



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    Well, we all know how unhappy you are, so that explains why you expend so much time and energy on judging the lives of others.
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    Re: Why does Society Hate Families? Part II

    Captain! Surely you do not mean to hinder my desire to be petty, do you?

    Originally Posted by Stace
    There is no need to be so rude to me. I get that you have some kind of problem with me, which you're more than welcome to take up with me in a PM or down in the Basement even. But I'm not going to let that deter me from debating you. I have never once said that you're not doing what works best for your family. I have, however, been merely trying to get you to stop villifying those of us who have systems that work for us that are contrary to your own.

    You continue to put down stay at home mothers, though we have ALL said that we admire working mothers.

    We're just looking to have a little of our respect returned.
    In my own way, that is what I have been trying to do as well. I just get frustrated with the ridiculous insults that never stop spewing from her lips. It never ends, even when people try to make peace.

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    Re: Why does Society Hate Families? Part II

    See...

    I see this issue continuing. Attacks abound on fathers, stay at home mothers and traditional family structure. Why? Why can't those that live in non-traditional families simply accept stop ripping at the fabric of the family?

    Can family have many meanings...yes.

    I see involved stay at home mothers excluded from things by working mothers daily. I often wonder if this is because working mothers at simply jealous or if it is because they are ashamed that they took a selfish route of working rather than attending to their children.

    Before some of you get all huffy...some women and single parents have to work and they are not included in this observation. I am referring to mothers in relationships that choose to go back to work immediately and they put their kids in day care and even after that they have their kids running around to classes or then get baby-sitters so that they can go to their own classes like yoga.
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    Re: Why does Society Hate Families? Part II

    Man your obsessed with this topic. Why does it matter to you if someone chooses to stay at home or go to work, whether there is financial imperative to do so or not? There are a million different ways of raising kids, and lo-and-behold regardless of which way a person chooses, chances are the kid's gonna turn out okay. The fact that the majority of people do is testament to that. So why the need to argue that which ever choice is not your own is somehow flawed, selfish, or inferior?

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    Re: Why does Society Hate Families? Part II

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    Man your obsessed with this topic. Why does it matter to you if someone chooses to stay at home or go to work, whether there is financial imperative to do so or not? There are a million different ways of raising kids, and lo-and-behold regardless of which way a person chooses, chances are the kid's gonna turn out okay. The fact that the majority of people do is testament to that. So why the need to argue that which ever choice is not your own is somehow flawed, selfish, or inferior?
    Obsessed? Hardly...

    It matters to me not. You are, in fact, supporting my point perfectly. Why should it matter what a person chooses to do? Thanks....
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