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    Who should get the longer sentence, Manning or Bales?

    Simple question. Who do you think deserves to serve the most jail time, Bradley Manning or Robert Bales? Both will be sentenced this week, do you think that one's crime is comparable in severity with the other's?

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    Re: Who should get the longer sentence, Manning or Bales?

    One is actual loss of life, but not of Americans, the other is potential loss of life, but of Americans.


    Obviously, Manning will get the harsher sentence. As for who SHOULD, that's obvious. The person who committed mass murder.
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    Re: Who should get the longer sentence, Manning or Bales?

    Quote Originally Posted by KevinKohler View Post
    One is actual loss of life, but not of Americans, the other is potential loss of life, but of Americans.


    Obviously, Manning will get the harsher sentence. As for who SHOULD, that's obvious. The person who committed mass murder.
    Interesting view and sounds obivous. I am not sure, however, that I agree.

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    Re: Who should get the longer sentence, Manning or Bales?

    Quote Originally Posted by joG View Post
    Interesting view and sounds obivous. I am not sure, however, that I agree.
    With which part of Kevin's post do you not agree? Please explain.
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    Re: Who should get the longer sentence, Manning or Bales?

    Bales, no question. However, if he was acting out of mental illness, he should be put in a mental hospital rather than prison. But he should definitely get life in prison. He's a danger to society.

    Manning should get a couple years, plus probation. His actions were reckless, but ultimately harmless.

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    Re: Who should get the longer sentence, Manning or Bales?

    Bales will probably get life in prison, whereas Manning will get a couple of decades behind bars at the very worst.

    I don't see any reason to assume that Manning would get any harsher a sentence than a mass murderer like Robert Bales, especially not when the anti-American propaganda value a light conviction would give to organizations like the Taliban is taken into consideration.

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    Re: Who should get the longer sentence, Manning or Bales?

    Quote Originally Posted by ThePlayDrive View Post
    Bales, no question. However, if he was acting out of mental illness, he should be put in a mental hospital rather than prison. But he should definitely get life in prison. He's a danger to society.

    Manning should get a couple years, plus probation. His actions were reckless, but ultimately harmless.
    If he was acting out of mental illness, then yes, he should be confined in a secure psychiatric facility for life. He has pleaded guilty however, and he has not sought to claim insanity.
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    Re: Who should get the longer sentence, Manning or Bales?

    Quote Originally Posted by Andalublue View Post
    If he was acting out of mental illness, then yes, he should be confined in a secure psychiatric facility for life. He has pleaded guilty however, and he has not sought to claim insanity.
    It is my understanding that he plead guilty as part of a deal to avoid the death penalty. personally...I'd rather face the death penalty than 50+ years in prison
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    Re: Who should get the longer sentence, Manning or Bales?

    Quote Originally Posted by OscarB63 View Post
    It is my understanding that he plead guilty as part of a deal to avoid the death penalty. personally...I'd rather face the death penalty than 50+ years in prison
    Yes, that's my understanding of it too. He would have avoided the death penalty by arguing insanity too, wouldn't he? As far as the old, 'I'd rather be dead than incarcerated for life' argument, I can't really imagine how I'd feel in those circumstances, it seems that alien an idea to me.
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    Re: Who should get the longer sentence, Manning or Bales?

    Quote Originally Posted by Andalublue View Post
    Yes, that's my understanding of it too. He would have avoided the death penalty by arguing insanity too, wouldn't he? As far as the old, 'I'd rather be dead than incarcerated for life' argument, I can't really imagine how I'd feel in those circumstances, it seems that alien an idea to me.
    he would have only avoided the death penalty if they had bought an insanity plea. this way it was guaranteed to be off the table.

    as for death v life in prison....I've been an MP for over 10 years, seen my fair share of what life is like in military prisons. I still think I would prefer death over spending 50 years in lockup
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