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    Should these teens be tried as adults

    DUNCAN, Okla. (AP) — With the simplest of motives — breaking up the boredom of an Oklahoma summer — three teenagers followed an Australian collegiate baseball player who was attending school in the U.S. and killed him with a shot to the back for “the fun of it,” prosecutors said Tuesday as they charged two of the teens with murder.
    As the boys appeared in an Oklahoma courtroom, a 17-year-old blurted out, “I pulled the trigger,” then wept after a judge told him that Tuesday’s hearing wasn’t the time or place to sort out the facts of the case.
    Prosecutor Jason Hicks called the boys “thugs” as he told Stephens County Judge Jerry Herberger how Christopher Lane, 22, of Melbourne, died on a city street.
    Chancey Allen Luna, 16, and James Francis Edwards, Jr., 15, of Duncan were charged with first-degree murder and, under Oklahoma law, will be tried as adults. Michael Dewayne Jones, 17, of Duncan was accused of using a vehicle in the discharge of a weapon and accessory to first-degree murder after the fact. He is considered a youthful offender but will be tried in adult court. 3 Teens Charged After Australian Player Slain « CBS Houston

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    Re: Should these teens be tried as adults

    If anyone does, they deserve to be tried as adults.

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    Re: Should these teens be tried as adults

    Quote Originally Posted by Goshin View Post
    If anyone does, they deserve to be tried as adults.
    We call them kids for a reason. When do you have an adult male, at 28 years and nine months. These may be killer kids, but they are still kids, obviously.

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    Re: Should these teens be tried as adults

    Quote Originally Posted by TiredOfLife View Post
    We call them kids for a reason. When do you have an adult male, at 28 years and nine months. These may be killer kids, but they are still kids, obviously.

    Sorry, no way. 15-16yo know murder is wrong. This wasn't in the heat of anger, or sort-kinda-by-accident, or negligence, or even in response to some insult or offense.... this was entirely malum-in-se with no mitigating circumstances. There are some things for which "they're just kids" is no longer an excuse for people past puberty. This was one.

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    Re: Should these teens be tried as adults

    Quote Originally Posted by sawyerloggingon View Post
    DUNCAN, Okla. (AP) — With the simplest of motives — breaking up the boredom of an Oklahoma summer — three teenagers followed an Australian collegiate baseball player who was attending school in the U.S. and killed him with a shot to the back for “the fun of it,” prosecutors said Tuesday as they charged two of the teens with murder.
    As the boys appeared in an Oklahoma courtroom, a 17-year-old blurted out, “I pulled the trigger,” then wept after a judge told him that Tuesday’s hearing wasn’t the time or place to sort out the facts of the case.
    Prosecutor Jason Hicks called the boys “thugs” as he told Stephens County Judge Jerry Herberger how Christopher Lane, 22, of Melbourne, died on a city street.
    Chancey Allen Luna, 16, and James Francis Edwards, Jr., 15, of Duncan were charged with first-degree murder and, under Oklahoma law, will be tried as adults. Michael Dewayne Jones, 17, of Duncan was accused of using a vehicle in the discharge of a weapon and accessory to first-degree murder after the fact. He is considered a youthful offender but will be tried in adult court. 3 Teens Charged After Australian Player Slain « CBS Houston
    Fifteen is pretty young to be charged as an adult IMO. Most kids are still very much a child at that age. I just wish there was a way to hold them longer than until their 18th birthdays when it's a serious charge such as this.

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    Re: Should these teens be tried as adults

    Quote Originally Posted by Goshin View Post
    If anyone does, they deserve to be tried as adults.
    I say put them in with the general prison population where they can be passed around for a pack of smokes for the next 60 years of their lives.



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    Re: Should these teens be tried as adults

    Quote Originally Posted by Goshin View Post
    Sorry, no way. 15-16yo know murder is wrong. This wasn't in the heat of anger, or sort-kinda-by-accident, or negligence, or even in response to some insult or offense.... this was entirely malum-in-se with no mitigating circumstances. There are some things for which "they're just kids" is no longer an excuse for people past puberty. This was one.
    Tell me, does this this crime make sense to you? Of course it doesn't, you're an adult. It's not about wrong or right, it's about having a brain mature enough to hear that clearly though all the other noise in your head. Teens know what is right most of the time, they just aren't any good at doing it. For that you need maturity, which they lack and therefore we call them teens or kids.

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    Re: Should these teens be tried as adults

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    I say put them in with the general prison population where they can be passed around for a pack of smokes for the next 60 years of their lives.
    Delightful. Your sense of Justice is noted.

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    Re: Should these teens be tried as adults

    I can't imagine a scenario where the actual shooter doesn't deserve to be tried as an adult and put away for a very very very long time. I will withhold my judgment on what the other two should be charged with/as for a short while longer, simply because I haven't read a whole lot about the case.
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    Re: Should these teens be tried as adults

    Quote Originally Posted by Krhazy View Post
    I can't imagine a scenario where the actual shooter doesn't deserve to be tried as an adult and put away for a very very very long time. I will withhold my judgment on what the other two should be charged with/as for a short while longer, simply because I haven't read a whole lot about the case.
    The shooter was probably the most immature of the three.

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