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    Re: Should these teens be tried as adults

    Quote Originally Posted by P. Kersey View Post
    Oh.."newbie"....That is a terrible blow I can only hope I'll be able to recover from eventually. You have really cut me to the quick.

    You are funny! LMAO
    Well that wasn't my intention. My intent is get you to stop asking me dumb questions. so I apologize.

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    Re: Should these teens be tried as adults

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    Of course no adults that you know would make such a decision. But then you also don't know the thousands of murderers in prison do you?

    And I have never ONCE said that a 15 year old is not a kid. But I HAVE said that a 15 year old CAN make ADULT DECISIONS. Please get that right. I'm tired of saying it.
    None of the decisions these kids made were adult-like in any way for that matter. The adults in prison mostly suffer from some malady or another, so they are not healthy or normal adults.

    These children may not have healthy minds, but they are STILL kids with child-like minds, processing skills and critical-thinking skills. They lack these things because they're brains are not yet fully developed. This has been observed by experts on MRI images.

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    Re: Should these teens be tried as adults

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    No they aren't. There are plenty of way more heinous murders than this where the convicted did NOT get the death penalty.
    I think that anybody that murders should be put to death... so I don't really care that some aren't put to death. To me, that is a societal error. These kids, at least the shooter, should be put to death.

    The decision these kids made was in no way an "adult" decision. If anything, it was an extremely childish decision. The position that this was an adult decision is beyond ridiculous.
    If I made a childish decision and killed a person I would expect to be put to death. Kids know that killing is wrong. Hell, they know that pushing another kid is wrong. The idea that these are "kids making childish decisions so lets not make them face the appropriate consequence" to me, is ridiculous.

    Here's an example of a TRULY heinous murderer who was spared the DP. So, save Gary because he is cooperating but kill 15 year olds. That's effing nuts.
    I agree his getting let off is ridiculous... to a degree. But the two are not analogous. He gave them information that helped solve dozens of unsolved murders. The police have to solve these murders. They used the guy to solve the crimes and the guy used a plea bargain to get a lesser sentence. Surely that makes sense?
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    Re: Should these teens be tried as adults

    I cannot understand this mindset. I cannot.

    "They KILLED somebody, so let's KILL them!"

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    Re: Should these teens be tried as adults

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    Well that wasn't my intention. My intent is get you to stop asking me dumb questions. so I apologize.
    You seem to want to protect these "children" and I was wondering if you wouldn't mind them living next door...or if you'd allow your kids to hang out with them...Those questions don't seem to be "retarded" or "stupid"...I fully understand why you want to avoid answering them, though.

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    Re: Should these teens be tried as adults

    Quote Originally Posted by P. Kersey View Post
    You seem to want to protect these "children" and I was wondering if you wouldn't mind them living next door...or if you'd allow your kids to hang out with them...Those questions don't seem to be "retarded" or "stupid"...I fully understand why you want to avoid answering them, though.
    I don't want to protect anyone. I'm simply against the death penalty. I never said these kids should not be punished. That is why your line of questioning is silly.

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    Re: Should these teens be tried as adults

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    Of course no adults that you know would make such a decision. But then you also don't know the thousands of murderers in prison do you?

    And I have never ONCE said that a 15 year old is not a kid. But I HAVE said that a 15 year old CAN make ADULT DECISIONS. Please get that right. I'm tired of saying it.
    You have certainly said that but you are wrong. Let us say that we take a random decision that you believe is an "adult" one, and we present it to the courts without them knowing anything about it all, And they say how old was this person who made this decision, and you say 15 your honor. And the judge raises his eyebrows, and promptly throws you out of his courtroom. Why, because 15 can't make that decision.

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    Re: Should these teens be tried as adults

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    None of the decisions these kids made were adult-like in any way for that matter. The adults in prison mostly suffer from some malady or another, so they are not healthy or normal adults.

    These children may not have healthy minds, but they are STILL kids with child-like minds, processing skills and critical-thinking skills. They lack these things because they're brains are not yet fully developed. This has been observed by experts on MRI images.
    These aren't kids that were doing something immature, like driving too fast, that hit and killed a person. These aren't kids that locked another kid in a broken freezer behind the shed as a goof and the kid suffocated. These are kids that targeted a person to kill, pulled out a gun and pulled the trigger. You using this, "they are kids that haven't matured" argument is actually kinda strange.
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    Re: Should these teens be tried as adults

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    Of course no adults that you know would make such a decision. But then you also don't know the thousands of murderers in prison do you?

    And I have never ONCE said that a 15 year old is not a kid. But I HAVE said that a 15 year old CAN make ADULT DECISIONS. Please get that right. I'm tired of saying it.

    You know what you call a adult who murders someone just because they are bored? A sociopath or a psychopath.

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    Re: Should these teens be tried as adults

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    I don't want to protect anyone. I'm simply against the death penalty. I never said these kids should not be punished. That is why your line of questioning is silly.
    "my line of reasoning"?
    Those aren't trick questions.

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