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    Re: Should these teens be tried as adults

    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    For heinous crimes like this... they are.
    No they aren't. There are plenty of way more heinous murders than this where the convicted did NOT get the death penalty.

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    Re: Should these teens be tried as adults

    Quote Originally Posted by TiredOfLife View Post
    Taking a life, especially for no good reason, sounds exactly what a child would do. And two kids having sex when they are same age doesn't make them adults either. I won't say how young I was the first time I had actual intercourse but I had killed someone at that age no one would have even dreamed of charging me as an adult, since I was nothing of the kind. I think my bedtime was still 8:30 PM.
    Sounds exactly what many if not all, serial killers do also. Are you saying that serial killers are children no matter their legal age? This is not about what age a person legally is. It is about thier decisions. Was the decision to kill an adult decision? That is the actual question. There are only two answers to it...Yes or no?

    The same applies for having sex. Is it an adult decision to have sex? Yes or no? And please note that I never said that making an adult decision makes one legally an adult.
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    Re: Should these teens be tried as adults

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    Again this is the prosecutor's side of the story. Are you familiar at all with goes on pre trial? The prosecutor is going to try to muddy the names of the accused and make them appear as guilty as humanly possible and taint public opinion. This is a strategy.
    They will get their pretrial and I can only make decisions by what is known now.
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    Re: Should these teens be tried as adults

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    That is NOT an adult decision. An adult would decide NOT to do that. Children are children no matter what you want to make them into.
    And yet how many adults are currently in prison specifically for murder? Are you also saying that those killers are actually children despite their legal age of adulthood? Children may be children...but that does not preclude them from making adult decisions. Just as it does not preclude adults from making childish decisions.
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    Re: Should these teens be tried as adults

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    Sounds exactly what many if not all, serial killers do also. Are you saying that serial killers are children no matter their legal age? This is not about what age a person legally is. It is about thier decisions. Was the decision to kill an adult decision? That is the actual question. There are only two answers to it...Yes or no?

    The same applies for having sex. Is it an adult decision to have sex? Yes or no? And please note that I never said that making an adult decision makes one legally an adult.
    No, and no.

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    Re: Should these teens be tried as adults

    Quote Originally Posted by TiredOfLife View Post
    A gun is not about defense. It's for killing something.

    As for what I would do with guns, especially handguns, no one would have them unless they were going off to war. That's a very good place for a gun BTW, it's really good at killing people.
    You are worrying too much on guns killing people and not on who gets killed by a gun. Bad guys get killed, good. Innocent people get killed, bad.
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    Re: Should these teens be tried as adults

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    And yet how many adults are currently in prison specifically for murder? Are you also saying that those killers are actually children despite their legal age of adulthood? Children may be children...but that does not preclude them from making adult decisions. Just as it does not preclude adults from making childish decisions.
    The decision these kids made was in no way an "adult" decision. If anything, it was an extremely childish decision. The position that this was an adult decision is beyond ridiculous.

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    Re: Should these teens be tried as adults

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    That makes us the same as them.
    Nope it doesn't. We have reasons to not want them among the living any more. Specifically to protect others from harm. As long as they live there is always a chance to do more harm. We on the other hand would never purposely for no reason or even for the "joy" (if there is such a thing) kill someone.
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    Re: Should these teens be tried as adults

    Here's an example of a TRULY heinous murderer who was spared the DP. So, save Gary because he is cooperating but kill 15 year olds. That's effing nuts.

    Man Who Admitted To 48 Murders Will Serve Life Sentence In Exchange For Cooperation

    In a plea agreement reached with Washington state prosecutors, Gary Ridgway, a Seattle-area man who admitted to 48 murders since 1982, will serve a sentence of life in prison without parole. Prosecutors spared Ridgway from execution in exchange for his cooperation in leading police to the remains of still-missing victims. (Associated Press, Nov. 5, 2003).

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    Re: Should these teens be tried as adults

    Quote Originally Posted by Shadow Serious View Post
    You are worrying too much on guns killing people and not on who gets killed by a gun. Bad guys get killed, good. Innocent people get killed, bad.
    I'm not a fan either way.

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