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    Re: Should these teens be tried as adults

    Quote Originally Posted by TiredOfLife View Post
    And how do they do that? Does the gun somehow turn into a magic protective shield?
    Yes it really does, have you ever had one pointed at you up close and personal? Like magic you STOP!

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    Re: Should these teens be tried as adults

    Quote Originally Posted by TiredOfLife View Post
    I'd don't buy that for a second. It is legal to spank a child in all 50 states. Link please?

    New Zealand tried to ban it, and then they had to repeal it. We aren't Sweden. Here we smack our kids.

    State by State Spanking Laws - Kidjacked

    Alright, it is a statute on the books but the courts intervene anyway when it comes to spanking.
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    Re: Should these teens be tried as adults

    Quote Originally Posted by TiredOfLife View Post
    That doesn't change what guns are for, killing things.
    No it doesn't but the intent is clear. And that is the point.
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    Re: Should these teens be tried as adults

    Quote Originally Posted by Shadow Serious View Post
    Alright, it is a statute on the books but the courts intervene anyway when it comes to spanking.
    Not spanking, beating, and they're supposed to.

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    Re: Should these teens be tried as adults

    Quote Originally Posted by Shadow Serious View Post
    No it doesn't but the intent is clear. And that is the point.
    The intent is clear, this tool kills things. The intent of the hammer is clear as well, it pounds things.

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    Re: Should these teens be tried as adults

    Quote Originally Posted by TiredOfLife View Post
    Not spanking, beating, and they're supposed to.
    The problem is that the courts and DHS have a definition that welts or small bruises are excessive force which all but preempts the statue.
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    Re: Should these teens be tried as adults

    Quote Originally Posted by Shadow Serious View Post
    The problem is that the courts and DHS have a definition that welts or small bruises are excessive force which all but preempts the statue.
    Have you never heard the phrase that the Law is an Ass? Be careful when spanking one, especially the smaller younger ones, but my point is still entirely valid, we can spank them because we define them as children and treat them that way. That doesn't change just because they do something monstrous. They are still children.

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    Re: Should these teens be tried as adults

    Quote Originally Posted by TiredOfLife View Post
    The intent is clear, this tool kills things. The intent of the hammer is clear as well, it pounds things.
    It kills things what is your point? Do you not know that deadly force is justified for defending against grievous bodily harm and murder? And to do such one must have the tools to do so? Or are you hypnotized by "gun bad; kills people."?
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    Re: Should these teens be tried as adults

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    I say put them in with the general prison population where they can be passed around for a pack of smokes for the next 60 years of their lives.
    They deserve only the death sentence.

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    Re: Should these teens be tried as adults

    Quote Originally Posted by Shadow Serious View Post
    It kills things what is your point? Do you not know that deadly force is justified for defending against grievous bodily harm and murder? And to do such one must have the tools to do so? Or are you hypnotized by "gun bad; kills people."?
    No, I'm making the very simple and obvious point that a gun is not for self-defense, it's for killing things. You can use a hammer for self-defense but a gun is a whole lot easier, mainly because it's much more effective at Killing Things, which is why it was designed in the first place.

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