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    Re: Should these teens be tried as adults

    Quote Originally Posted by TiredOfLife View Post
    When you go hunting, do you usually take something along that can kill what you hunt? And what's best for that, a gun. That's what it does, it kills things.
    Yes it does and your point? Do you not realize that it can be used in self defense also; and sometimes one has to use lethal force to defend oneself?
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    Re: Should these teens be tried as adults

    Quote Originally Posted by Shadow Serious View Post
    A parent can be brought up on battery charges. They can lose their child to the Department of Human Services (Child Welfare).
    They can be but they almost never are. Why, because it's perfectly legal to spank a child in this country, even in public. That includes your teenager. That doesn't mean you might not end up taking heat for it but it IS legal to do. Why, because they are children as defined by the law.

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    Re: Should these teens be tried as adults

    Quote Originally Posted by Shadow Serious View Post
    Yes it does and your point? Do you not realize that it can be used in self defense also; and sometimes one has to use lethal force to defend oneself?
    You mean to kill something, exactly my point, that is what a gun is for. It's no more for self defense than a hammer is. One kills things, one pounds things. Both can do the others job but that's not their design.

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    Re: Should these teens be tried as adults

    Quote Originally Posted by TiredOfLife View Post
    They can be but they almost never are. Why, because it's perfectly legal to spank a child in this country, even in public. That includes your teenager. That doesn't mean you might not end up taking heat for it but it IS legal to do. Why, because they are children as defined by the law.
    Illegal is NOT legal. For some time now it has been illegal to spank children in Oklahoma. Also laws governing this is done by the State level and not by the Federal level. Maybe your State allows it, but mine (Oklahoma) does NOT.
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    Re: Should these teens be tried as adults

    Quote Originally Posted by Shadow Serious View Post
    Illegal is NOT legal. For some time now it has been illegal to spank children in Oklahoma. Also laws governing this is done by the State level and not by the Federal level. Maybe your State allows it, but mine (Oklahoma) does NOT.
    I'd don't buy that for a second. It is legal to spank a child in all 50 states. Link please?

    New Zealand tried to ban it, and then they had to repeal it. We aren't Sweden. Here we smack our kids.

    http://kidjacked.com/legal/spanking_law.asp#oklahoma

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    Re: Should these teens be tried as adults

    Quote Originally Posted by TiredOfLife View Post
    You mean to kill something, exactly my point, that is what a gun is for. It's no more for self defense than a hammer is. One kills things, one pounds things. Both can do the others job but that's not their design.
    You are not seeing that a person will have to use force to defend oneself and sometimes a person must use lethal force to do so. Only an idiot would use a gun to drive nails and only a desperate person would use a hammer in self defense.
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    Re: Should these teens be tried as adults

    Quote Originally Posted by Shadow Serious View Post
    You are not seeing that a person will have to use force to defend oneself and sometimes a person must use lethal force to do so. Only an idiot would use a gun to drive nails and only a desperate person would use a hammer in self defense.
    That doesn't change what guns are for, killing things.

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    Re: Should these teens be tried as adults

    Quote Originally Posted by TiredOfLife View Post
    That doesn't change what guns are for, killing things.
    Just like a rope is not responsible for a hanging guns are not responsible for killing someone....It takes a person to do that my left wing friend.
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    Re: Should these teens be tried as adults

    Quote Originally Posted by TiredOfLife View Post
    That doesn't change what guns are for, killing things.
    Guns also stop killings but the media never reports that happening.

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    Re: Should these teens be tried as adults

    Quote Originally Posted by sawyerloggingon View Post
    Guns also stop killings but the media never reports that happening.
    And how do they do that? Does the gun somehow turn into a magic protective shield?

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