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    Re: Should these teens be tried as adults

    Quote Originally Posted by Μολὼν λαβέ View Post
    Is execution by being shot in the back unsuspectingly cruel and unusual punishment?
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    So you see the comparison then? Good. Thanks.
    Is that a yes or a no?
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    Re: Should these teens be tried as adults

    Quote Originally Posted by Μολὼν λαβέ View Post
    Is that a yes or a no?
    Yes, but that's a criminal act. Our government is not supposed to do those things. Killing people is what criminals do.

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    Re: Should these teens be tried as adults

    Quote Originally Posted by Μολὼν λαβέ View Post
    Is that a yes or a no?
    Why do you ask? Are you another one who wants to kill 15-year-old kids?

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    Re: Should these teens be tried as adults

    Quote Originally Posted by Captain Adverse View Post
    Well, he does have some kind of prior record. If this prior record is for serious violence then perhaps I'd go along with his being tried as an adult. Primarily because such a record might support the contention that he had the capability of committing the crime himself had he been in possession of the weapon.
    Come to think of it, we should dispense with all this juvenile-adult nonsense (as if it ever really made any sense at all) and take a good hard look at the accused, his behavior, his mind, and his brain, irrespective of any arbitrarily designated chronological line of distinction between mature and immature culpability, and judge him accordingly, to wit, his potential for repeating such behavior as a juvenile or an adult as opposed to his behaving like a civilized, law-abiding citizen. In other words, if this kid is a bad seed then he should go. However, if there is some realistic potential for rehabilitation then we can consider a sentence alternative to execution, including his eventual reintegration to society.
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    Re: Should these teens be tried as adults

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    It should be, and it is if it is a juvenile according to international law.
    First...Your opinion of what it "should be" is no more relevant than a pro-lifer feeling that abortion "Should be"....ie, it's not relevant, not when determining if a word is used properly. Your opinion doesn't change definitions nor make law.

    Second...your statement wasn't specific to juveniles, but a broad one stating that someone sentenced to the death penalty is victim of state-sponsored murder.

    So no...you're still wrong, and your link didn't actually prove otherwise in the least.

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    Re: Should these teens be tried as adults

    Other : it depends on what the crime was like murder or rape than yes they should be prosecuted as adults

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    Re: Should these teens be tried as adults

    Quote Originally Posted by Un biased View Post
    Other : it depends on what the crime was like murder or rape than yes they should be prosecuted as adults
    A child is still a child. It doesn't matter what the crime was. If a five-year-old finds a gun and shoots his little sister dead we don't charge him as an adult. That's because he isn't.

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    Re: Should these teens be tried as adults

    Quote Originally Posted by TiredOfLife View Post
    A child is still a child. It doesn't matter what the crime was. If a five-year-old finds a gun and shoots his little sister dead we don't charge him as an adult. That's because he isn't.
    Yes but a 15 or 16 year old Should . The difference between the a 5 year old and a 16 year old is that a 16 year old knows better than to shoot his sister.

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    Re: Should these teens be tried as adults

    Quote Originally Posted by Un biased View Post
    Yes but a 15 or 16 year old Should . The difference between the a 5 year old and a 16 year old is that a 16 year old knows better than to shoot his sister.
    Knowing and doing are not the same things. We don't treat teenagers like adults, because they aren't.

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    Re: Should these teens be tried as adults

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    First...Your opinion of what it "should be" is no more relevant than a pro-lifer feeling that abortion "Should be"....ie, it's not relevant, not when determining if a word is used properly. Your opinion doesn't change definitions nor make law.

    Second...your statement wasn't specific to juveniles, but a broad one stating that someone sentenced to the death penalty is victim of state-sponsored murder.

    So no...you're still wrong, and your link didn't actually prove otherwise in the least.
    I disagree, when you lock someone up and leave a person essentially helpless and then the state gives them a lethal injection, that is effing murder. Play semantics all you want.

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