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    Re: Should these teens be tried as adults

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    You killed somebody, so now I'm going to kill you. Hmm. That doesn't sound like justice to me boys.
    Why not? Some people forfeit their right to life by committing acts so egregious that the end result is the best course of action. Simple.
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    Re: Should these teens be tried as adults

    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    That settles it... let's take murder off the books. It is free for all time folks!
    Considering the population growth, I've heard worse ideas.

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    Re: Should these teens be tried as adults

    Quote Originally Posted by TiredOfLife View Post
    Knowing and doing are two separate things. It's why we call them teenagers not adults.
    What would you have happen to the shooter, assuming that all facts are as reported?
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    Re: Should these teens be tried as adults

    Quote Originally Posted by Dubliner View Post
    Well that sucks for the murdered person and his family/friends. There is no need to coddle people who kill for fun.
    Did you know that the DP extends the trial, and a lot of victims' families don't want it?

    https://www.aclunc.org/issues/crimin..._penalty.shtml

    Despite enduring unimaginable, heartbreaking grief, the families of murder victims are choosing to speak out against the death penalty by sharing their most painful stories of loss.

    Their experiences form part of a powerful new publication entitled “Voices from California Crime Victims for Alternatives to the Death Penalty,” a joint project of three organizations that are working to reframe the debate over the death penalty in California - Murder Victims’ Families for Reconciliation, Death Penalty Focus, and the ACLU-NC.

    The death penalty solves nothing and may even perpetuate the suffering of the parents, children, or siblings left behind, the contributors to the booklet concur.

    “Revenge is not justice,” says Lorrain Taylor, whose twin boys, Albade and Obadiah, aged 22, were murdered while working on their stalled car. Obadiah had plans to open his own barbershop, and Albade had just received a promotion at the law firm where he worked.

    “Taking another person’s life does not stop violence,” says Taylor. “There’s a contradiction in responding to murder by executing people.”

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    Re: Should these teens be tried as adults

    Quote Originally Posted by TiredOfLife View Post
    Most of them don't die driving and drinking or drop the bbay on its head either. It's a numbers game.
    You don't want non-adults to be tried as adults for murder, right? But you will allow for non-adults to drive and have babies knowing that it does result in death for some as well as difficulties and pain for many?
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    Usually a gag for wise mouthed insulting little girls. Then some good nylon rope so I can tie them up, toss them in the trunk of my car and forget about them.

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    Re: Should these teens be tried as adults

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    Yes, they understand the "concept." Sure.
    Then they know not to do it... what is the problem?
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    I have pooped in public, even in public neighborhoods.
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    Re: Should these teens be tried as adults

    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    Why not? Some people forfeit their right to life by committing acts so egregious that the end result is the best course of action. Simple.
    That must be, Right To Life*


    * does not apply to those we deem unworthy.

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    Re: Should these teens be tried as adults

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    Yes, they understand the "concept." Sure.
    What more is there to understand than what I described?
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    Re: Should these teens be tried as adults

    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    How is killing a person who is guilty out of vengeance more barbaric than killing a person who is guilty because they forfeit their right to live in society...??
    Regaurdless of the Barbaric nature of the crime, we still have to go through the process of a trial by jury

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    Re: Should these teens be tried as adults

    Quote Originally Posted by sawyerloggingon View Post
    DUNCAN, Okla. (AP) — With the simplest of motives — breaking up the boredom of an Oklahoma summer — three teenagers followed an Australian collegiate baseball player who was attending school in the U.S. and killed him with a shot to the back for “the fun of it,” prosecutors said Tuesday as they charged two of the teens with murder.
    As the boys appeared in an Oklahoma courtroom, a 17-year-old blurted out, “I pulled the trigger,” then wept after a judge told him that Tuesday’s hearing wasn’t the time or place to sort out the facts of the case.
    Prosecutor Jason Hicks called the boys “thugs” as he told Stephens County Judge Jerry Herberger how Christopher Lane, 22, of Melbourne, died on a city street.
    Chancey Allen Luna, 16, and James Francis Edwards, Jr., 15, of Duncan were charged with first-degree murder and, under Oklahoma law, will be tried as adults. Michael Dewayne Jones, 17, of Duncan was accused of using a vehicle in the discharge of a weapon and accessory to first-degree murder after the fact. He is considered a youthful offender but will be tried in adult court. 3 Teens Charged After Australian Player Slain « CBS Houston
    The 16 yo pulled the trigger, the 17 yo was the ringleader. They should be tried as adults. The 15 yo seems to have just "been there" as part of the crew. Based on what little information appears in the article, I'd support trying him as a juvenile.

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