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    Re: Should these teens be tried as adults

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    I have always been ambivalent about the DP due to having had almost 30 years of trying jury cases and I have seen some really bad screw ups. But some people really deserve things worth than a clean death

    for example, those two assholes in CT who raped a woman and her daughters and then burned the girls to death after killing the mother. NOthing the spanish inquisition did would be too cruel for those scumbags. but I don't think the state should bring back the pear or the wheel but if the father of a slain wife and two daughters wanted to break the mopes on the rack, I sure wouldn't lose any sleep over it
    I don't feel sorry for those guys either, and I also have feelings and feel angry when I hear about these things, but I'm talking about principles.

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    Re: Should these teens be tried as adults

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    Imagine being a 15-year-old in a prison full of adult men, mostly predators?
    LOL, he might not like being "reared" that way



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    Re: Should these teens be tried as adults

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    Imagine being a 15-year-old in a prison full of adult men, mostly predators?
    The 15 year old would be in a juvenile facility until he reaches 18 years old then transferred to the adult facility.

    That would happen whether if he was tried as a juvenile or an adult, so my question remains what is the difference.

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    Re: Should these teens be tried as adults

    Quote Originally Posted by ttwtt78640 View Post
    Yep. We see gov't "expert" employees fired for bad performance all the time.

    Care to link to the last 10 DOJ officials fired for making bad decisions. A quick search turned up one such case in 2007.
    That stuff is going to happen no matter what.

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    Re: Should these teens be tried as adults

    Quote Originally Posted by Mason66 View Post
    The 15 year old would be in a juvenile facility until he reaches 18 years old then transferred to the adult facility.

    That would happen whether if he was tried as a juvenile or an adult, so my question remains what is the difference.
    No, some states put juveniles in adult facilities, like California.

    Prison Is Too Violent for Young Offenders - Room for Debate - NYTimes.com

    Like many states, California allows youth offenders as young as 14 to be transferred from the juvenile system to adult courts. From there, most of the teenagers who are tried as adults and sentenced to life in adult institutions are placed in Level 4 maximum-security prisons that are extremely violent.

    If rehabilitation is the goal for teenagers who are tried and sentenced as adults, then prison is not the answer.
    This happens even though courts have said that juveniles are different from adults and in some situations must be treated differently. For example, in 2005, the Supreme Court banned the death penalty for juvenile offenders because “people under 18 are immature, irresponsible, susceptible to peer-pressure and often capable of change.” However, the justices have not yet applied this same logic when considering the sentencing and housing of juveniles in the adult system.

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    Re: Should these teens be tried as adults

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    No, some states put juveniles in adult facilities, like California.

    Prison Is Too Violent for Young Offenders - Room for Debate - NYTimes.com
    Sorry but I have no sympathy for murdering teens.

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    Re: Should these teens be tried as adults

    Quote Originally Posted by lolabird View Post
    Undoubtedly a screenplay written by Quentin Tarantino with the stars to be announced later.
    You are obviously a law scholar--not!
    Dude, I was just ****ing with you. Not one thing I typed is actually my opinion. Was bored.

    On the last note though, interestingly, I self-represented in Court twice and won both times. Very enlightening experiences as to the inner workings of the "justice system".
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    Re: Should these teens be tried as adults

    Quote Originally Posted by sawyerloggingon View Post
    Sorry but I have no sympathy for murdering teens.
    It's about what's right and wrong. Executing kids is just wrong.

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    Re: Should these teens be tried as adults

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    No, some states put juveniles in adult facilities, like California.

    Prison Is Too Violent for Young Offenders - Room for Debate - NYTimes.com
    We are talking about Oklahoma, not California.

    I know full well California is screwed up as a state.

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    Re: Should these teens be tried as adults

    Quote Originally Posted by Mason66 View Post
    We are talking about Oklahoma, not California.

    I know full well California is screwed up as a state.
    Well the link says "like many states."

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