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    Re: Should these teens be tried as adults

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    Nope, I already acknowledged that to be a problem with the juvenile system and agreed with another poster about perhaps trying them as adults (when it's a murder), but making adjustments for them as juveniles. It's a complicated problem. I just think 15 years old is too young to be charged as an adult.
    should a victim or his family get less satisfaction merely due to the age of the turd who shot the man?



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    Re: Should these teens be tried as adults

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    I have less problems with the family of the victim killing the killer than when the government does
    But realistically that is not going to happen.

    but for a 16 year old-50 years in prison (the life span of lifers is about 15 years lower than free citizens) is far worse than being "put to sleep" like an unwanted dog
    Isn't that what you want? It's better than killing kids IMO. And those kids do have families.

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    Re: Should these teens be tried as adults

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    should a victim or his family get less satisfaction merely due to the age of the turd who shot the man?
    Emotions shouldn't play a factor when applying the law IMO.

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    Re: Should these teens be tried as adults

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    But realistically that is not going to happen.



    Isn't that what you want? It's better than killing kids IMO. And those kids do have families.
    in some cases, those who spawned those "children" ought to be in prison as well



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    Re: Should these teens be tried as adults

    Quote Originally Posted by ttwtt78640 View Post
    If that "letting them out" is before completing their initally assigned sentence then it makes things a lot worse.
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    How? If sentences can only be shortened, then what is the "up side" other than morons proclaiming to have saved money?
    There would be no initially assigned sentence. You would be incarcerated until you were deemed safe to interact with the general public again. No minimum or maximum. In a practical sense there would be a minimum since it would take a certain amount of time to analyze someone and determine whether they were safe to release or not. Releases would probably be conditional in a lot of cases too. For example someone with a mental health issue might have to prove they were being treated and taking their meds to stay out of prison.

    Quote Originally Posted by ttwtt78640 View Post
    As I have stated earlier, those doing the letting out early should share the consequences of any recidivism. Gambling with the safety of others is easy, but when it is your chips going into the pot, the decisions are likely to be far different.
    That's ridiculous. We don't do that to doctors, and they hold people's lives in their hands every day too. All that would get you is no one willing to do the job.

    If it was negligence that led to the decision to let the person go, then I agree that the person should be punished. But to expect people to be perfect is ridiculous.
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    Re: Should these teens be tried as adults

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    Emotions shouldn't play a factor when applying the law IMO.
    true, if you deliberately murder someone because you are bored, we should not give you a pass just because you are a "kid"



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    Re: Should these teens be tried as adults

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    Emotions shouldn't play a factor when applying the law IMO.
    Zimmerman would agree...
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    Re: Should these teens be tried as adults

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    I have less problems with the family of the victim killing the killer than when the government does

    but for a 16 year old-50 years in prison (the life span of lifers is about 15 years lower than free citizens) is far worse than being "put to sleep" like an unwanted dog
    I have often thought a sentence of 15 minutes with the friends and relatives of the victim would be a good idea.
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    Re: Should these teens be tried as adults

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    true, if you deliberately murder someone because you are bored, we should not give you a pass just because you are a "kid"
    I don't want to give them a pass. I just don't want them to be killed. The death penalty is passe. It's too expensive. It takes too long. It's bad to execute an innocent individual, and we have alternatives.

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    Re: Should these teens be tried as adults

    Quote Originally Posted by AlabamaPaul View Post
    Zimmerman would agree...
    I'm sure he would.

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