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    Re: Should these teens be tried as adults

    Quote Originally Posted by Lutherf View Post
    Children are most definitely not incapable of making good decisions and the decision to shoot someone just for the heck of it is so far outside the realm of "good" that no reasonable person could possibly justify it as "a misguided decision".
    even a 10 y/o should be able to recognize that killing another person just for fun is a bad idea.
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    Re: Should these teens be tried as adults

    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaJohn View Post
    You're probably right, since 2 of the 3 have been charged with murder but the other one, the driver, was simply charged with accessory after the fact.
    All three should be charged equally. The 17yo was driving so he was every bit as actively involved as the others. The ONLY way I'd consider letting him off the hook is if it can be proved that the others forced him into participating.
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    Re: Should these teens be tried as adults

    Quote Originally Posted by OscarB63 View Post
    even a 10 y/o should be able to recognize that killing another person just for fun is a bad idea.
    It boggles my mind that others can't comprehend that. This wasn't some 4 year old or some retard that committed this act.

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    Re: Should these teens be tried as adults

    Quote Originally Posted by Lutherf View Post
    All three should be charged equally. The 17yo was driving so he was every bit as actively involved as the others. The ONLY way I'd consider letting im off the hook is if it can be proved that the others forced him into participating.
    exactly. letting him go because "he was just the driver" would be like letting a member of a gang rape go because he "only held her down"
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    Re: Should these teens be tried as adults

    Quote Originally Posted by Lutherf View Post
    It boggles my mind that others can't comprehend that. This wasn't some 4 year old or some retard that committed this act.
    and it wasn't like they were out joy riding and throwing bottles at street signs and accidentally hit someone in the head and killed them.
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    Re: Should these teens be tried as adults

    Quote Originally Posted by OscarB63 View Post
    hey..if it makes you feel better to give cold blooded murderers a slap on the wrist because they are "children"....knock yourself out.





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    Re: Should these teens be tried as adults

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    Anyone who supports treating children like adults has a problem.

    And any of those people who refuse to recognize the fact that they have a problem have yet another problem.



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    and anyone who can't see that teenagers who act like adults are not "children" has problems. you guys keep missing the point. it's not like these guys were out doing stupid "kid stuff" and someone got killed. they deliberately planned to hunt down another human being and kill them. that is not a lapse in judgement or any other childlike excuse. that is the act of a seriously ****ed up adult.

    it's not like this was a bunch of kids who found daddy's gun and were playing cops and robbers and shot one of their playmates.
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    Re: Should these teens be tried as adults

    Quote Originally Posted by Surtr View Post
    In this case, where three youths went on a "joy killing" of a man who did nothing to them, execution is a fitting punishment for the one who pulled the trigger. Life sentences for the other two, no parole.



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    Re: Should these teens be tried as adults

    The reason this "problem" has not been resolved before now is because nobody knows what to do.

    It's not a matter of rehabilitation, they failed to develop the slightest shred of conscience or compassion during the early years when other children are developing those critical traits. My guess is that this lack of humanity in "children " is rapidly becoming an evident problem throughout the civilized world.

    In all likelihood, these "children" if ever set free, will spend the rest of their lives brutally harming innocent people and even other children and still incur millions of dollars from taxpayers to babysit them for the rest of their lives.

    We owe a duty to those future innocent victims as well as the young man they murdered.

    I believe the solution is that they should be tried as adults, but with certain adult punishments taken off the table, such as the death penalty. That would leave the problem of long term cost to taxpayers, which would require that they be forced to work to pay for their room and board during the entire time they are incarcerated.
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    Re: Should these teens be tried as adults

    Quote Originally Posted by Lutherf View Post
    All three should be charged equally. The 17yo was driving so he was every bit as actively involved as the others. The ONLY way I'd consider letting him off the hook is if it can be proved that the others forced him into participating.
    I don't disagree with you - it's possible that he was given the lesser charge because he seems to be the one that confessed and fingered the other two. It might have been some kind of agreement to get charged with a lesser offense in exchange for information.
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