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    Re: Should these teens be tried as adults

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    You don't know anything about this case or the people involved except for some incomplete data. Your diagnosis is also not valid. Frigging armchair psychiatrists, medical professionals and lawyers are a hoot.
    Well, so you don't like my analysis and prefer your own - that's fine - I don't believe your analysis that these are just three precious dears who need to be saved and are just misunderstood and if they could get some guidance and handholding they can be rehabilitated and tossed back out into an unsuspecting world.
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    Re: Should these teens be tried as adults

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    From a link I posted earlier in case you missed it. So no, they are not "evil." Also, I clarified my earlier statement to say that children and teens often do not THINK about the consequences of their actions.
    I don't buy the so called study.

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    Re: Should these teens be tried as adults

    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaJohn View Post
    I believe this is one area where the American justice system has it right. Young people, 15, 16 and 17, who commit such crimes are not children. Young offenders laws in my country are abused regularly by not only young adults under the age of 18 but by adults who use young people under the age of 18 to commit crimes.

    On a side note, I would also charge whomever gave these young men a gun or allowed an insecured weapon to be taken by these young men to senselessly murder an innocent man.
    I don't know for sure but I bet the gun was stolen or bought off the street illegally, these kids were apparently in a gang or wannabe gangsters..

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    Re: Should these teens be tried as adults

    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaJohn View Post
    Well, so you don't like my analysis and prefer your own - that's fine - I don't believe your analysis that these are just three precious dears who need to be saved and are just misunderstood and if they could get some guidance and handholding they can be rehabilitated and tossed back out into an unsuspecting world.
    I suspect the truth may be somewhere between Chris and your opinion.
    I am thinking maybe 2 of the 3 could be rehabilitated, as they were followers, poor decision skills,
    but did not initiate the idea of killing for fun.
    The trick will be to figure out which of the 3 is the sociopath.

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    Re: Should these teens be tried as adults

    Quote Originally Posted by shrubnose View Post
    Hey, you can keep your "principles", too, because we don't want them.

    Gather them all up, Put 'em in a box and stick 'em up in your attic.
    hey..if it makes you feel better to give cold blooded murderers a slap on the wrist because they are "children"....knock yourself out.
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    Re: Should these teens be tried as adults

    Quote Originally Posted by longview View Post
    I suspect the truth may be somewhere between Chris and your opinion.
    I am thinking maybe 2 of the 3 could be rehabilitated, as they were followers, poor decision skills,
    but did not initiate the idea of killing for fun.
    The trick will be to figure out which of the 3 is the sociopath.
    birds of a feather....... leader or follower, all 3 were old enough to know better
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    Re: Should these teens be tried as adults

    Quote Originally Posted by longview View Post
    I suspect the truth may be somewhere between Chris and your opinion.
    I am thinking maybe 2 of the 3 could be rehabilitated, as they were followers, poor decision skills,
    but did not initiate the idea of killing for fun.
    The trick will be to figure out which of the 3 is the sociopath.
    You're probably right, since 2 of the 3 have been charged with murder but the other one, the driver, was simply charged with accessory after the fact.
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    Re: Should these teens be tried as adults

    There's a reason we differentiate between children and adults, and that's because children are still developing, and are incapable of making good decisions. Their brains are still growing and developing into their twenties. A child is a child is a child, not an adult. Trying a child as an adult is a travesty of justice. I see the fry-em rape-em kill-em mob are baying for childrens' blood as usual. Their perverted blood-lust is sickening.
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    Re: Should these teens be tried as adults

    Quote Originally Posted by Manc Skipper View Post
    There's a reason we differentiate between children and adults, and that's because children are still developing, and are incapable of making good decisions. Their brains are still growing and developing into their twenties. A child is a child is a child, not an adult. Trying a child as an adult is a travesty of justice. I see the fry-em rape-em kill-em mob are baying for childrens' blood as usual. Their perverted blood-lust is sickening.
    yeah...the brain isn't fully developed until around age 25. I guess, using your logic, a 24 y/o should get away with murder because they are still developing. a 15,16 & 17 y/o who are capable of planning and carrying out an execution are not children and no amount of hand-wringing is going to change that.
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    Re: Should these teens be tried as adults

    Quote Originally Posted by Manc Skipper View Post
    There's a reason we differentiate between children and adults, and that's because children are still developing, and are incapable of making good decisions. Their brains are still growing and developing into their twenties. A child is a child is a child, not an adult. Trying a child as an adult is a travesty of justice. I see the fry-em rape-em kill-em mob are baying for childrens' blood as usual. Their perverted blood-lust is sickening.
    Children are most definitely not incapable of making good decisions and the decision to shoot someone just for the heck of it is so far outside the realm of "good" that no reasonable person could possibly justify it as "a misguided decision".

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