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    Re: Should these teens be tried as adults

    Quote Originally Posted by lizzie View Post
    from the Washington Post:


    They have apparently admitted that they did this out of boredom. What the effing hell is that for an excuse?
    According to the prosecutor, yes. In the article I read, it didn't state what the defense is claiming at all, so a lot of details are not yet known.

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    Re: Should these teens be tried as adults

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    These are adult recidivism rates. Juvenile statistics are not available because their records are sealed. Also, it is known that rehabilitation is not very effective with adults, but experts have claimed up to an 80% success rate with juveniles, even those who have committed violent crimes.
    Sure it is. There are a dozen working models to prove it.

    It will depend on the type of crime somewhat, but there is always the option of just keeping people who can't be rehabilitated and commit the worst crimes locked up.

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    Re: Should these teens be tried as adults

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    According to the prosecutor, yes. In the article I read, it didn't state what the defense is claiming at all, so a lot of details are not yet known.
    We do know what they said. We do know that Edwards was already a criminal.
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    Re: Should these teens be tried as adults

    Quote Originally Posted by SmokeAndMirrors View Post
    Sure it is. There are a dozen working models to prove it.

    It will depend on the type of crime somewhat, but there is always the option of just keeping people who can't be rehabilitated and commit the worst crimes locked up.
    Links please.

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    Re: Should these teens be tried as adults

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    According to the prosecution anyway.
    Jones (Michael Dewayne Jones) told officers they were bored and killed Lane for “the fun of it.”
    so, no....it is not "according to the prosecution" I just don't get why you are so big on defending these piece of ****.
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    Re: Should these teens be tried as adults

    Quote Originally Posted by OscarB63 View Post
    so, no....it is not "according to the prosecution" I just don't get why you are so big on defending these piece of ****.
    Hello? That is a statement by the prosecution. The defense has not said that.

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    Re: Should these teens be tried as adults

    Quote Originally Posted by lizzie View Post
    If they were thieves, or otherwise criminals who did not commit acts which resulted in the death of a human being, I would tend to agree. These aren't kids who just happened to do something stupid and negligent.
    There was no negligence, this was based on pure malice. These "kids" unfortunately meant to cause harm.
    Neither side in an argument can find the truth when both make an absolute claim on it.

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    Re: Should these teens be tried as adults

    Quote Originally Posted by OscarB63 View Post
    so, no....it is not "according to the prosecution" I just don't get why you are so big on defending these piece of ****.
    Disagreeing with the death penalty and disagreeing with charging them as adults is NOT defending them. It is acknowledging facts.

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    Re: Should these teens be tried as adults

    Quote Originally Posted by lizzie View Post
    We do know what they said. We do know that Edwards was already a criminal.
    Jones told officers they killed Lane for the fun of it. I am baffled at why she keeps making excuses for these scumbags, she is usually quite reasonable
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    Re: Should these teens be tried as adults

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    Disagreeing with the death penalty and disagreeing with charging them as adults is NOT defending them. It is acknowledging facts.
    it is when you keep making excuses as to why they shouldn't be held accountable as adults for committing an adult crime.
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