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Should these teens be tried as adults

Should the 15 and 16 year old also be tried as adults

  • yes and throw away the key

    Votes: 72 87.8%

  • no, they deserve a second chance

    Votes: 10 12.2%
  • Total voters
    82
TiredOfLife said:
Tell me, does this this crime make sense to you? Of course it doesn't, you're an adult. It's not about wrong or right, it's about having a brain mature enough to hear that clearly though all the other noise in your head. Teens know what is right most of the time, they just aren't any good at doing it. For that you need maturity, which they lack and therefore we call them teens or kids.
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Please, teens know it's wrong to murder people. Thinking otherwise is just ridiculous. It definitely about right or wrong when a person life is at stake and it is extremely wrong what this trio did. There is no reason to think these kids did not have the "brain maturity" to realize what they did was wrong. They should most definitely be tried as adults.
 
Dubliner said:
Please, teens know it's wrong to murder people. Thinking otherwise is just ridiculous. It definitely about right or wrong when a person life is at stake and it is extremely wrong what this trio did. There is no reason to think these kids did not have the "brain maturity" to realize what they did was wrong. They should most definitely be tried as adults.
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They know a lot of things, as a matter of fact they know everything if you talk to them, they just don't do what they should do very damned often. They're kids remember, as in Not Adults Yet, obviously.
 
TurtleDude said:
funny how we don't see white folk rioting after this-a black on white killing that is one hundred times worse than the one that seemed to cause so many riots and hysterical handwringing
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Getting all snarky on an internet message board is the white version of rioting these days.

I say this as a white person, haha.
 
Dubliner said:
Please, teens know it's wrong to murder people. Thinking otherwise is just ridiculous. It definitely about right or wrong when a person life is at stake and it is extremely wrong what this trio did. There is no reason to think these kids did not have the "brain maturity" to realize what they did was wrong. They should most definitely be tried as adults.
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Sometimes they don't realize the consequences of their actions.
 
Krhazy said:
Getting all snarky on an internet message board is the white version of rioting these days.

I say this as a white person, haha.
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its a legitimate point. Jews didn't riot when OJ walked for killing Ron Goldman. whites aren't going to riot over this or the fact that there are far more cases of blacks killing illegally whites than the other way around

where's those race pandering pimps like Al Sharpton on this killing?
 
TiredOfLife said:
Is Texas Immature for Capital Punishment? I have thoughts on that.
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I don't support capital punishment except for acts of mass murder or other extreme depravity. Not sure whether this case would qualify. If my previous statement needs to be amended to account for that (and also situations like, for example, self defense), consider it amended.
 
ChrisL said:
Sometimes they don't realize the consequences of their actions.
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that they might get 60 years of prison bitch status? that seems to be the consequences they didn't take into account.

The man is dead. he did nothing to deserve it-that's where the inquiry really should start and end.
 
Krhazy said:
I don't support capital punishment except for acts of mass murder or other extreme depravity. Not sure whether this case would qualify. If my previous statement needs to be amended to account for that (and also situations like, for example, self defense), consider it amended.
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Just checking. I believe you missed a few amendments but so be it.
 
DUNCAN, Okla. (AP)[/B] — With the simplest of motives — breaking up the boredom of an Oklahoma summer — three teenagers followed an Australian collegiate baseball player who was attending school in the U.S. and killed him with a shot to the back for “the fun of it,” prosecutors said Tuesday as they charged two of the teens with murder.
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While not normally a proponent of the death penalty there are exceptions.
These young men should face an expedited trial and then promptly hanged by the neck until dead .. just "for the fun of it"

Thom Paine
 
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TurtleDude said:
that they might get 60 years of prison bitch status? that seems to be the consequences they didn't take into account.

The man is dead. he did nothing to deserve it-that's where the inquiry really should start and end.
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Well, maybe I could have worded that better. A lot of times they act without thinking about the consequences of their actions. Some of them are actually impulsive and kind of stupid, and when they get together with friends you can triple that.
 
TurtleDude said:
where's those race pandering pimps like Al Sharpton on this killing?
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I don't think Al Sharpton would defend someone who apparently admitted to killing another just because he could.
 
Well I am pretty sure white folks don't riot over things like this is because history tells them when white folks get killed not pushing a Civil Right agenda in the Deep South, justice will be served. Cases like the OJ trial for murdering two white folks is the exception that brings the comparison into sharp contrast.

I do believe the last time I spoke with the Cotton County Ass. DA on age restrictions, it was the shotgun murder of a 15 year old girl by a trio of white boys one county over, Oklahoma law allows down to age 13 to be tried as an adult.

Last I heard 2 are charged with murder one and the oldest as an after the fact accomplice.

Oklahoma isn't Texas by any stretch but it ain't from a lack of trying.
 
Thom Paine said:
sawyerloggingon said:
DUNCAN, Okla. (AP) — With the simplest of motives — breaking up the boredom of an Oklahoma summer — three teenagers followed an Australian collegiate baseball player who was attending school in the U.S. and killed him with a shot to the back for “the fun of it,” prosecutors said Tuesday as they charged two of the teens with murder.

While no normally a proponent of the death penalty there are exceptions.
These young men should face an expedited trial and then promptly hanged by the neck until dead .. just "for the fun of it"

Thom Paine
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The cleaners called, your pointy white hood is ready.
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TurtleDude said:
a turd like that cannot be salvaged. best to make a horrible example out of him-maybe the next asswipe that wants to kill someone for amusement might think twice
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Sometimes turds can be salvaged. :mrgreen:
 
ChrisL said:
Sometimes turds can be salvaged. :mrgreen:
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sometimes justice demands otherwise

but you have a point, they can be used as FERTILIZER
 
They should be put to death... tomorrow.
 
TiredOfLife said:
They know a lot of things, as a matter of fact they know everything if you talk to them, they just don't do what they should do very damned often. They're kids remember, as in Not Adults Yet, obviously.
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Well they shouldn't kill a person because they were bored and felt like it, that's for sure. They're teenagers, yes that's obvious. You know what's also obvious? They took a life from another person because they felt like it. They fully knew what they were doing, and for murder they should be charged as an adult.
 
TurtleDude said:
If it was my brother they killed I'd want breaking on the wheel or anal impalement on a stake. no horror is too disgusting for the asshole who shot that guy.
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Vengeance is the most barbaric form of justice.

An eye for an eye only ends up making the whole world blind.

Mahatma Gandhi
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ChrisL said:
Well, maybe I could have worded that better. A lot of times they act without thinking about the consequences of their actions. Some of them are actually impulsive and kind of stupid, and when they get together with friends you can triple that.
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You can't say that a fifteen year old doesn't understand that if they shoot someone in the back, there is a strong possibility they may die (or at least suffer extraordinary injury). 15 year olds are in high school. They are studying geometry and chemistry. They are more than capable of understanding that guns are not toys and that shooting someone for no reason means they are likely to be put away for life.

It's one thing if a kid robs somebody. Just because you fell into the wrong crowd and stole something doesn't mean you are incapable of becoming a responsible member of society without having to go through the prison experience. I'm sorry, if you shoot somebody in the back as a 15 year old, you need to be put in a mental institution and/or prison, because there is something seriously wrong with you.
 
Dubliner said:
Well they shouldn't kill a person because they were bored and felt like it, that's for sure. They're teenagers, yes that's obvious. You know what's also obvious? They took a life from another person because they felt like it. They fully knew what they were doing, and for murder they should be charged as an adult.
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No teenager knows fully what they are doing. We can't even get adults to that stage. That's the problem.
 
ChrisL said:
Sometimes they don't realize the consequences of their actions.
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Well that sucks for the murdered person and his family/friends. There is no need to coddle people who kill for fun.
 
TiredOfLife said:
No teenager knows fully what they are doing. We can't even get adults to that stage. That's the problem.
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Teenagers know enough not to murder. And if they don't realize that murder is wrong then they should not be with the rest of society.
 
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