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    Re: Should these teens be tried as adults

    Quote Originally Posted by TiredOfLife View Post
    Innocents are harmed? And if it was, shouldn't the families of all those innocent Japanese people have a claim against those who killed them, us?
    The Japanese have no claim against anything. They started the war in the 1920's. Ask all the comfort girls across Asia. We lost enough men getting to Okinawa. Yet we continue to let Japanese revise and lie on the Military Channel and such.

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    Re: Should these teens be tried as adults

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    To a point yes, which is why there is a seperate juvenile level of law to an extent. Certain crimes though are considered to be of such a high level that the excuse of youth is insufficient.
    Neither side in an argument can find the truth when both make an absolute claim on it.

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    Re: Should these teens be tried as adults

    Quote Originally Posted by NIMBY View Post
    The Japanese have no claim against anything. They started the war in the 1920's. Ask all the comfort girls across Asia. We lost enough men getting to Okinawa. Yet we continue to let Japanese revise and lie on the Military Channel and such.
    This isn't much of a Right to Life it seem, Tell me, did the men who died in the Pearl Harbor attack have that right?

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    Re: Should these teens be tried as adults

    Quote Originally Posted by Goshin View Post
    Sorry, no way. 15-16yo know murder is wrong. This wasn't in the heat of anger, or sort-kinda-by-accident, or negligence, or even in response to some insult or offense.... this was entirely malum-in-se with no mitigating circumstances. There are some things for which "they're just kids" is no longer an excuse for people past puberty. This was one.
    Then why bother drawing the line at all? What's the use of saying juvenile offenders are tried with a different set of rules if the definition can be tossed aside at will? Just try every case the same and be done with it.

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    Re: Should these teens be tried as adults

    Which is why the Japanese have no redress. Pearl Harbor is another straw man extension.
    Quote Originally Posted by TiredOfLife View Post
    This isn't much of a Right to Life it seem, Tell me, did the men who died in the Pearl Harbor attack have that right?

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    Re: Should these teens be tried as adults

    Quote Originally Posted by Grand Mal View Post
    Then why bother drawing the line at all? What's the use of saying juvenile offenders are tried with a different set of rules if the definition can be tossed aside at will? Just try every case the same and be done with it.
    Well we can't do that. We should try you as an adult. convict you as an adult, and then force you to eat your vegetables and do your algebra homework like any other adult.

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    Re: Should these teens be tried as adults

    Quote Originally Posted by NIMBY View Post
    Which is why the Japanese have no redress. Pearl Harbor is another straw man extension.
    Well I keep trying to find this right to life but so far all I see are dead bodies? Where is it, the right to be born so you can die in war, which very conveniently doesn't involved a right to life?

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    Re: Should these teens be tried as adults

    Quote Originally Posted by LaMidRighter View Post
    To a point yes, which is why there is a seperate juvenile level of law to an extent. Certain crimes though are considered to be of such a high level that the excuse of youth is insufficient.
    Most adults wouldn't get LWOP for this crime. They would get out in 35 years or less.

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    Re: Should these teens be tried as adults

    Right-to-life is a stretch at best in this case. It also happens to be on the fore-front of the battle between the Feds and States with 10th amendment oversteps.
    Quote Originally Posted by TiredOfLife View Post
    Well I keep trying to find this right to life but so far all I see are dead bodies? Where is it, the right to be born so you can die in war, which very conveniently doesn't involved a right to life?

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    Re: Should these teens be tried as adults

    Quote Originally Posted by TiredOfLife View Post
    Well we can't do that. We should try you as an adult. convict you as an adult, and then force you to eat your vegetables and do your algebra homework like any other adult.
    Insightful, as usual.
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