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    Re: Should these teens be tried as adults

    Quote Originally Posted by opendebate View Post
    Do you know anything about how the human brain evolves?
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    Re: Should these teens be tried as adults

    Quote Originally Posted by Coin View Post
    A young made a crime today and tomorrow is his 18th birthday.
    He's not a kid.He ****ed up the system pretty well.

    Basing the evaluation of a crime on the age is stupid imo.
    I think for most circumstances we can give kids a break, like petty theft, drug use(but they should have to go into a rehabilitation program), and other smaller crimes that could be excused as misguided. For heinous crimes like rape, felonious assault, and murder the penalties must be harsh, and adult.
    Neither side in an argument can find the truth when both make an absolute claim on it.

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    Re: Should these teens be tried as adults

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    They sentence them AFTER they turn 18. Pretty slimy. Also, this decision was made in 2005. Eight years ago.
    The Sentencing is irrelevant. It is when (age) they commit the crime that counts.
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    Re: Should these teens be tried as adults

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    Re: Should these teens be tried as adults

    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    Yes. A lot actually... How about you?
    Hmmmmm. That sounds like the tone of someone in the field. Are you?

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    Re: Should these teens be tried as adults

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    It is true. Educate yourself.
    It is true because of red tape that is allowed to take place, it is false when leaving the red tape out it and another example of the fleecing of America

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    Re: Should these teens be tried as adults

    what I just said, RED TAPE, a rope or a bullet is alot cheaper that all of the that bull**** that has been allowed to take place.

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    Re: Should these teens be tried as adults

    Here's a little more information about the newest information regarding the teen brain and what it's capable of generally.

    New Findings on Youth Brain Development and Decision Making | Juvenile Justice Reform | Adolescent Substance Abuse Treatment | Reclaiming Futures

    Major findings from the report include:

    Brain development takes place in stages and is not fully complete in adolescence. The frontal lobe, tasked with decision making, planning, judgement, expression of emotions and impulse control may not be fully mature until the mid-20s.

    The limbic system, which helps to process and manage emotion, is also developing during adolescence. This causes adolescents to experience more mood swings and impulsive behavior than adults.

    Levels of dopamine production shift during adolescence. As a result, activities that once were exciting to youth may not be so as they enter adolescence, and thus they may seek excitement through increasingly risky behavior.

    When adolescents make choices involving risk, they do not engage the higher-thinking, decision-and reward areas of the brain as much as adults do. This can lead adolescents to actually overstate rewards without fully evaluating the long-term consequences or risks involved in a situation.
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    Reactions, rather than rational thought, come more from the amygdala, deep in the brain, than the frontal cortex, which led Yurgelun-Todd and other neuroscientists to suggest that an immature brain leads to impulsivity, or what researchers dub "risk-taking behavior." Although it was known from animal studies and brain-injured people that the frontal cortex matures more slowly than other brain strucures, it has only been with the advent of functional MRI that researchers have been able to study brain activity in normal children.

    The brain scans used in these studies are a valuable tool for researchers. Never before have scientists been able to develop data banks of normal, healthy children. Outlining the changes in normal function and development will help researchers determine the causes of psychiatric disorders that afflict children and adolescents.
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    Re: Should these teens be tried as adults

    Heck, the military has been aware of this fact for centuries based on just simple observations. Why do you think they recruit kids straight out of high school? LOL!

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    Re: Should these teens be tried as adults

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    Most of it is not biased and opinionated. You just don't like the conclusions because you want to put kids to death.

    The SC seemed to take this kind of information VERY seriously. The information and some of the scientific studies I posted are what the SC used to come to their decision to outlaw the DP for minors, based on it being cruel and unusual punishment.
    No. The opinionated stuff is the stuff saying that it is OK or not OK to kill a kid based off of scientific evidence that is irrelevant to a crime. A crime is committed. People looking to give excuses to others use this evidence to make their point. I find it ridiculous. I also find the DP to be cruel and unusual ridiculous.
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