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Bullying...

How are we doing at addressing bullying?

  • We're not doing enough.

    Votes: 26 43.3%
  • We're right on track and taking appropriate measures.

    Votes: 7 11.7%
  • We're blowing it way out of proportion.

    Votes: 20 33.3%
  • Other.

    Votes: 7 11.7%

  • Total voters
    60
If you also believe that boys being bullied is serious, but girls being bullied is trivial, then I disagree with you just as much as I disagree with him, and for the same reasons.

Did you read the rest of the reply? I think it explained my position fairly well I thought. Bullying is an opportunity to earn respect and should be looked on as such.
 
I agree with him actually. I was bullied myself fairly harshly. I am not pretty, in fact I hit more then a few branches of the ugly tree on the way down, and I was portly. Easy pickens for awhile until I earned my bones so to speak. If a girl is being bullied there are two options. Sit there and take it, or dish it back out. If she sits there and takes it, that makes her easy meat. Sorry but children are cruel little beasts and will be utterly heartless. Bullying is OPORTUNITY to prove oneself and EARN respect. Mommy and daddy coming to rescue just exacerbates the problem. If I was giving advise to a young girl, I would tell her to roll with the punches and learn to dish it back out. A good one liner every once in awhile will eventually shut down even the cruelest bitch. It will take time but eventually she will EARN respect and that more than anything else will build their self-esteem.

I guess I can relate to some degree. I never really got picked on, but just before I went into high school, there was an advanced placement class that I went to during the summer, at the same time as summer school. During breaks, there really wasn't anything to do so everyone kind of hung out in the weight room area. There was this big guy named Mike who was on the football team (kind of explains his being in summer school) and he and his football buddies liked to go around and beat up on people. Eventually, it was my turn and he took a shot at me in the weight room where there wasn't any room to fight and his longer reach meant he could keep hitting me without any chance that I could hit back. I backed out of the room and as soon as I had a chance, I put him on the floor. I guess it helped that I was into martial arts at the time. I didn't hurt him, although I could have, it was just a "you are going to stop doing that right now or else" kind of thing. Unfortunately, one of the teachers saw me do it and sent us both out to run laps and while we were out there, we talked and got to be really good friends. In fact, I ended up tutoring the guy in math to keep him on the football team. He was never a dick to me again because I put him in his place and he knew I could do it again.

That whole incident today would end up with someone breaking down in tears, whining on Facebook and probably require counseling. Kids today are wimps.
 
It really depends on the kind of bullying. If some pale-face is getting cornered in the bathroom by 3 jocks that are about to beat the snot out of him, that needs to be addressed. If it's someone getting a tongue-lashing here and there, let it go. If it's not physical, there really needs to be some over-the-top type of harassment that interferes with that kid living his or her life.

I think there are too many people here watching Pearl Jam's video for Jeremy and jumping to panic stage.
 
Bullying... the new trendy social issue. How are we doing at addressing it?

I don't think any reasonable person would deny that bullying exists, but... are we properly addressing the issue or are we blowing it out of proportion?

Bullying should be addressed. The current fad may be leading to some excesses, but is a good thing that the issue has been raised. In my experience just having teachers call us on it, reduced our collective bullying/taunting. Teachers who bully, encourage or intentionally tolerate bullying should be fired.
 
It really depends on the kind of bullying. If some pale-face is getting cornered in the bathroom by 3 jocks that are about to beat the snot out of him, that needs to be addressed. If it's someone getting a tongue-lashing here and there, let it go. If it's not physical, there really needs to be some over-the-top type of harassment that interferes with that kid living his or her life.

I think there are too many people here watching Pearl Jam's video for Jeremy and jumping to panic stage.

But that's not really bullying, that's assault and we already have laws against that. We don't need a whole new set of laws for it.
 
I guess I can relate to some degree. I never really got picked on, but just before I went into high school, there was an advanced placement class that I went to during the summer, at the same time as summer school. During breaks, there really wasn't anything to do so everyone kind of hung out in the weight room area. There was this big guy named Mike who was on the football team (kind of explains his being in summer school) and he and his football buddies liked to go around and beat up on people. Eventually, it was my turn and he took a shot at me in the weight room where there wasn't any room to fight and his longer reach meant he could keep hitting me without any chance that I could hit back. I backed out of the room and as soon as I had a chance, I put him on the floor. I guess it helped that I was into martial arts at the time. I didn't hurt him, although I could have, it was just a "you are going to stop doing that right now or else" kind of thing. Unfortunately, one of the teachers saw me do it and sent us both out to run laps and while we were out there, we talked and got to be really good friends. In fact, I ended up tutoring the guy in math to keep him on the football team. He was never a dick to me again because I put him in his place and he knew I could do it again.

That whole incident today would end up with someone breaking down in tears, whining on Facebook and probably require counseling. Kids today are wimps.

I agree some problems just need to be resolved between the involved parties and no one else.
 
I think men and women deal with bullying differently. Seems like when a man stands up to a bully he can often win the respect of the guy. They can beat the crap out of each other and then become best friends. With women you have to watch your back for the rest of your life. Hate to dis my own gender but ....

Sometimes the situation can be good, as it can test your mettle. Standing up to a bully can boost your self-esteem...and sometimes get you the girl.

 
Did you read the rest of the reply? I think it explained my position fairly well I thought. Bullying is an opportunity to earn respect and should be looked on as such.

I read it. I simply disagree with it. A completely ostracized 14 yr old, constantly taunted, insulted, ridiculed and alone, has neither the emotional nor physical capacity to take on the entire school while adults imply by their inaction that she must somehow deserve the abuse. We disagree on this. :shrug:
 
In case you have not noticed, the Anti-Bullying campaign is a pro-gay rights campaign in disguise. Every now and then they will throw in a non-white face to make it seem like it isn't what it is, but in the end, that is all it is.

Being perceived as gay or effeminate is one of the most common reasons why kids get bullied. It doesn´t impact just the one kid, it sends a message to all kids that they need to look and behave a certain way to avoid trouble. That oppresses everyone. (which is fine with homophobes)
 
Being perceived as gay or effeminate is one of the most common reasons why kids get bullied. It doesn´t impact just the one kid, it sends a message to all kids that they need to look and behave a certain way to avoid trouble. That oppresses everyone. (which is fine with homophobes)

Kids will taunt each other no matter what argument they come up with. Could be what you said, could be their red hair, could be the clothes they wear. You are not going to stop it. It is human nature.
 
Sometimes the situation can be good, as it can test your mettle. Standing up to a bully can boost your self-esteem...and sometimes get you the girl.



I got completely sucked into that clip. Now I want to watch the movies all over again.
 
I got completely sucked into that clip. Now I want to watch the movies all over again.

Heh...leave it to me to make it light-hearted in a bullying thread.

I warned you that I can make women smile in the Basement.
 
Please spare me that horse****. That's exactly what it is too. Children are no more fragile now then before. There is ONE and only one difference between to today and yesterday and that's children are way more coddled. Just like when I was growing up I was more coddled then my parents were. Children are the same as they have ever been. And the world sure as hell at least in this country is a LOT less crueler then it was even when I or you were growing up and most definitely when our parents and their parents were growing up.

Words only hurt one thing puppets. Are you a puppet? Are your children puppets? Are you and your children to manipulated as if you were puppets, at the will of some one else? One of the MOST valuable lessons we learn when we are growing up is that words ONLY have the meaning and power WE the listener assign them and no more. Have you not learned that lesson. Have you taught your children that lesson? Its one we should ALL learn and well. Your words only have worth to me, if I and ONLY I assign them worth. If I assign your words no worth then you may as well be farting as talking. I would deny NO child that very valuable lesson. It teaches something else as well, to have strength and confidence in oneself.

Lighten up, Francis. My kids have no issue with bullying or being bullied. I'm talking about other kids, and there are a lot of them. But just because my kids are mentally healthy enough to handle being bullied, and well-raised enough to not bully, doesn't mean that other kids aren't having this issue. I don't want one single child to have to die, just because somebody wouldn't stand up for them - some teacher didn't fight for them, or some parent didn't watch them closely enough to make sure that they weren't being bullied.
 
Kids will taunt each other no matter what argument they come up with. Could be what you said, could be their red hair, could be the clothes they wear. You are not going to stop it. It is human nature.
Then the cure for such nature is to pound the bully.
They bully because they think that people, usually smaller people, will do nothing but cowar. Nothing like swift kick to the boys to change that up.
And when they are down, start working on the teeth. Trust me, very empowering once you do it for the first time.
 
Heh...leave it to me to make it light-hearted in a bullying thread.

I warned you that I can make women smile in the Basement.

Is Basement a euphemism ;)
 
Then the cure for such nature is to pound the bully.
They bully because they think that people, usually smaller people, will do nothing but cowar. Nothing like swift kick to the boys to change that up.
And when they are down, start working on the teeth. Trust me, very empowering once you do it for the first time.

Well, it is more effective than a Public Service Ad or twitter trends every time some nobody kid allegedly kills themselves.
 
Kids will taunt each other no matter what argument they come up with. Could be what you said, could be their red hair, could be the clothes they wear. You are not going to stop it. It is human nature.

It doesn't stop in childhood either. I try to instill in my kids the "treat others as you would want to be treated", and hopefully that will carry over with them into adulthood.

My son has been bullied because he 's so thin, my daughter has been because she had back surgery and has a 1/2" scar down her back that runs from her neck clear to the top of her rear end.

They both have had difficult times with it, but it's taught both of them that there are rotten people in the world, and that no matter what they do or say, there will be those that are so miserable, they pick on what they see as the "weaker" in the group to make themselves feel better.

Bullies are to be pitied. I'm a firm believer in karma....and as we all know, karma is a bitch.
 
Bullying... the new trendy social issue. How are we doing at addressing it?

I don't think any reasonable person would deny that bullying exists, but... are we properly addressing the issue or are we blowing it out of proportion?

Bullying among kids, right?

Well, it's certainly wrong to just discard it claiming "kids will be kids". That's belitteling the issue. Most of that behavior dismissed in this manner would be considered serious criminal offenses when adults do it. And children should be taught soon enough that this is the case.
 
It doesn't stop in childhood either. I try to instill in my kids the "treat others as you would want to be treated", and hopefully that will carry over with them into adulthood.

My son has been bullied because he 's so thin, my daughter has been because she had back surgery and has a 1/2" scar down her back that runs from her neck clear to the top of her rear end.

They both have had difficult times with it, but it's taught both of them that there are rotten people in the world, and that no matter what they do or say, there will be those that are so miserable, they pick on what they see as the "weaker" in the group to make themselves feel better.

Bullies are to be pitied. I'm a firm believer in karma....and as we all know, karma is a bitch.

Usually the bullies are the ones who lack self-esteem. It really is true that standing up to a bully is usually the easiest way to diffuse it. When they can't use fear as a weapon, they soon realize that their quiver is all out of arrows.
 
I agree some problems just need to be resolved between the involved parties and no one else.

Except in cases where the problems are physical, or involve legitimate threats of physical violence, you're right. This isn't the kind of world-ending problem a lot of people pretend it is.
 
Heh...leave it to me to make it light-hearted in a bullying thread.

I warned you that I can make women smile in the Basement.

Are we in the basement?
 
I got completely sucked into that clip. Now I want to watch the movies all over again.

Hey now, you're going to make me watch them all over again too! :)
 
Bullying among kids, right?

Well, it's certainly wrong to just discard it claiming "kids will be kids". That's belitteling the issue. Most of that behavior dismissed in this manner would be considered serious criminal offenses when adults do it. And children should be taught soon enough that this is the case.

And when it's actual criminal behavior, you handle it as such. We have laws for that already. Beating the crap out of a kid should carry no less of a penalty than beating the crap out of an adult. It's the whiny liberal "but you might make them feel bad!" nonsense that most of us are objecting to. Suck it up.
 
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