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    Re: Bullying...

    Quote Originally Posted by radcen View Post
    Bullying is human nature. There's nothing exclusively American about it.
    It's not even human nature. Bulling is organic nature.

    Bullying is just a form of competition. Plants do this to each other. Interestingly, researchers found that plants will expand slower when their own species is in the near vicinity and will expand faster when there are other species they're competing with.
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    Re: Bullying...

    Quote Originally Posted by Captain Adverse View Post
    True, but it has evolved. It's more brutal and ruthless than when I was a kid and my dad told me to go face the bully.
    I don't buy that. If you're white or asian, American schools are unbelievably safe. The same rules that applied to you as a kid apply to your kids today.

    If your child attends an overwhealmingly black or latino school in the inner city, then you're living in a totally different world. But that's always been the case. The only difference is, when you were a kid, nobody in white america reported on what went on in all black neighborhoods.

    I guess ignorance can be bliss, sometimes.

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    Re: Bullying...

    Quote Originally Posted by Captain Adverse View Post
    I'm not sure that would do much more than piss the average bully off. Next time instead of facing the kid at school it might be on the way home where no one can see.
    Well, I don't think a bully kid can outsmart a grown up inspector (the investigation) and get away with it. If a bully is expelled and sent to a special school because he's beat some kid, his friends will think twice before stepping in the same direction.
    Anyway, the school task is to teach grown-ups that life has some responsibilities along with freedoms. And if you step over certain borders (the rules) that will be bad for you. You can beat the **** out of somebody but next time someone greater than you can beat the **** out of you, that's how it works.

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    Re: Bullying...

    Quote Originally Posted by radcen View Post
    Bullying... the new trendy social issue. How are we doing at addressing it?

    I don't think any reasonable person would deny that bullying exists, but... are we properly addressing the issue or are we blowing it out of proportion?
    I think it is the other way around, it is a social issue that is made worse by new trendy things of today. Especially internet, facebook and social media make it impossible for a child to hide from bullying. Usually kids were bullied at school but had a safe home place/family but in this day and age the people who bully can reach into that safe place and make a child bullied electronically as well.
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    Re: Bullying...

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter Grimm View Post
    I don't buy that. If you're white or asian, American schools are unbelievably safe. The same rules that applied to you as a kid apply to your kids today.

    If your child attends an overwhealmingly black or latino school in the inner city, then you're living in a totally different world. But that's always been the case. The only difference is, when you were a kid, nobody in white america reported on what went on in all black neighborhoods.

    I guess ignorance can be bliss, sometimes.
    I grew up in Harlem, NYC. I also spent time with family living in Watts, LA just a couple of blocks from the Towers. No one had to report anything to me...I lived it. Don't pull that crap with me. I know whereof I speak.
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    Re: Bullying...

    Quote Originally Posted by Dapper Andy View Post
    I just think there is a big different between something that are serious and others that are relatively trivial.

    "Gangs" of kids attacking the son you mentioned previously and severely hurting him is very serious but the daughter who had her feelings hurt is relatively trivial. I don't doubt being unpopular is no picnic but that's life.
    OMG I couldn't disagree more. You can recover from a fist-fight. Girls are killing themselves in record numbers because of cyber-bullying. Looking at it from your point of view, the numbers don't surprise me, because if it's not physical, it's not bullying, so go pull up your big girl panties, girlie, and get to school. If someone isn't hitting you, they aren't hurting you. Sheeesh.
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    Re: Bullying...

    To answer the OP, not nearly enough is being done to curb bullying. Schools now put up cutesy little posters, saying, "This is a BULLY FREE ZONE!1!!1" and "REPORT ALL BULLYING!" but they don't really want to do anything about it - at least none of the schools my girls have gone to. They want to brush the problems under the rug until some teenager jumps out a window, and then it's too late.
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    Re: Bullying...

    Quote Originally Posted by lizzie View Post
    Yeah, what we probably need to be doing, as we did when I was young and in school, is let someone kick the bully's ass, rather than teaching children to be passive, and punishing them for fighting back against an aggressor.
    I reinforce this act myself. The bully is usually someone in greater age picking on a victim of a smaller age. So I approach them and remind them the fact that "There is always and always someone who is bigger!"
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    Re: Bullying...

    Quote Originally Posted by Paschendale View Post
    It seems like there are some different views of what bullying is. It's often not just physical. In fact, physical bullying is likely rare compared with psychological and social bullying. Kids don't face a bully who wants to hit them, but rather bullies who single them out for derision and ostracizing. And as a kid faces that, every day, for years, they may become depressed, more likely to turn to drugs, or lose all confidence. They become damaged before they become adults. These kids can't fight back, they can't have the movie moment where they win a fistfight with the bully. They'll get in trouble for starting the physical fight.

    It's a cliche, but a true one that bullies are often troubled themselves. Counseling, dealing with their problems at home, and making sure that their attacks on others aren't ignored are key to stopping the cycle. A lot of bullying likely comes from bad parenting, especially authoritarian parenting.
    Yeah, certainly had my share of detentions for fighting back. It boils down to giving local districts complete power over some kid's life. Then if the kid is not well liked, the teachers and admin become complicit and protect the bullies. The only effective way to counter this is a lawsuit. But if you're 15 and afraid that will only make things worse, or you have no guidance, what can you do? Drop out? Transfer? /wrist?

    It's difficult to blow this problem out of proportion when it comes to those who are wrecked psychologically or no longer alive because of bullying. However, I'm not sure what can be done about it other than an enforced zero tolerance policy. Most bullies will be in jail by age 25 anyway, and at least this policy can save the victims. HS seems to do little more than give harbor to criminals. Imagine they got in those fights in a Meijer parking lot. Arrested for sure. Rather than expel them though, put them in a "bullies only classroom." Then they can taunt and beat on each other all day.

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    Re: Bullying...

    Quote Originally Posted by radcen View Post
    Discounting the "toughen up" aspect, and teaching kids to be hyper-sensitive, only serves to perpetuate the problem and it becomes self-sustaining in that it becomes always expanding.
    Really, so if half a dozen kids are throwing rocks at one victim in the parking lot, or he finds a knife in his locker, he is being 'hyper sensitive' and should just 'toughen up'? Are you that unaware of how bad it can get?

    Of course people will defend themselves if able to, but i doubt it's often a fair fight.
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