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    Re: Bullying...

    Quote Originally Posted by Captain Adverse View Post
    That's what my dad taught me. It used to work too, if you had the guts to stand up for yourself and face your bully.

    Problem is, times have changed. Used to be a one-on-one situation, and even if you lost you still got credit for standing up and most bullies stopped bothering you. Today 3 to ten people will jump on one kid and do a beat down. Then youtube it. Maybe it needs to be addressed today more than it did back in the old days.
    Heck, another problem is that sometimes when someone fights back with even more power than what you describe (a more than one person physical response), you actually get even more pushback from the bullies and the school population. When kids and their parents use the legal system to fight back, it can work against the student.

    That's why I thought the stand-up to the bully mantra foolish. Even if you play the bully's game in using disproportionate force (but legal force) against the bully, the masses retaliate and make them even more isolated. Despite that, when able to, heck yes, I would encourage the use of legal force against those punks.
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    Re: Bullying...

    Quote Originally Posted by Captain Adverse View Post
    I'm not talking about "gang-bangers" or "prison." There are enough cliques in school that bully kids without referencing "the big house" kind of props.

    I spent some time as a teacher. I had no problem interrupting fights. I had a problem when I started noticing kids with knives at school. That it was gangs of friends (like those three older middle school kids who beat that younger kid up on a bus) who had no problem jumping on one guy. That girl gangs did the same thing. This wasn't like "Valley Girls."

    I'm saying that it's important for kids to stand up for themselves, and even if the kid is bigger he'll respect you even if he wins if you face him down and get at least ONE good lick in. If that's all there was to bullying, no big deal. I'm just saying it's not always that simple anymore.
    Yeah well that's how it plays out here in CPS schools.....I don't have to look at the Big house. Course here the gangs are looked upon moreso than just cliques. As someone is or has some association to one or another.

    But you are Right as there have been gangs of girls out messing with people to. Usually older tho. But some have jumped guys too. Or moreso out in the suburbs with the hazing incidents.

    Like you I think standing up for themselves is the way to go. But then again you brought up about someone using the computer to bully a daughter. People going round thru technology. They even have a commercial about aggressive texting. So it does get a bit more complicated.

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    Re: Bullying...

    Quote Originally Posted by Fisher View Post
    In case you have not noticed, the Anti-Bullying campaign is a pro-gay rights campaign in disguise. Every now and then they will throw in a non-white face to make it seem like it isn't what it is, but in the end, that is all it is.
    Some of it yes. But most of the time, it's a defense of the minority-any minority campaign. Any person that has been taught to feel like crap simply for existing and liking something others don't, is represented.
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    Re: Bullying...

    Quote Originally Posted by Fiddytree View Post
    Some of it yes. But most of the time, it's a defense of the minority-any minority campaign. Any person that has been taught to feel like crap simply for existing and liking something others don't, is represented.
    so it is about protecting Christians and conservatives from the progressive caucus? Who knew....

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    Re: Bullying...

    Quote Originally Posted by lizzie View Post
    As long as we teach children to be passive, bullying will increase in frequency and in severity.
    So what exactly are you suggesting?

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    Re: Bullying...

    Quote Originally Posted by Fisher View Post
    so it is about protecting Christians and conservatives from the progressive caucus? Who knew....
    They ARE the bullies.
    If you claim sexual harassment to be wrong, yet you defend anyone on your side for any reason,
    then you are a hypocrite and everything you say on the matter is just babble.

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    Re: Bullying...

    Quote Originally Posted by Fisher View Post
    so it is about protecting Christians and conservatives from the progressive caucus? Who knew....
    If they are in a situation in which a gang of atheists, or an atheist and/or liberal dominated school goes out and berates students to that extent? Yes. On the other hand, it might be so that if that population you so describe represents the majority of the school norm, then no, you're looking at the likelihood of that being less.

    It's a numbers and culture thing.
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    Re: Bullying...

    Quote Originally Posted by radcen View Post
    They ARE the bullies.
    stop bullying me by accusing me of being a bully, you bully!!

    and that is why the train derailed......

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    Re: Bullying...

    Quote Originally Posted by Captain Adverse View Post
    Not really. If I am a crip and 5 bloods see me? I can fight my ass off and they'll still gladly beat the crap out of me and spit on me too. Prison? Gangs respect power and they don't waste it on minor issues. So in there sometimes facing up works, in others not so much.

    Now back the the real world...how do you handle a situation when some mean girls post embarassing things about your daughter on the internet...for millions to see? How do you handle your son getting a beat down so bad he almost loses an eye or suffers a broken bone? Tell him to go back so they can happily do it again? Back in the day I belonged to a teen gang, and unless it was a gang battle they pretty much let it be one on one. Now? Pssh, it's a gang beat-down.
    Gang violence is hardly new.

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    Re: Bullying...

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter Grimm View Post
    Gang violence is hardly new.
    True, but it has evolved. It's more brutal and ruthless than when I was a kid and my dad told me to go face the bully.
    If I stop responding it doesn't mean I've conceded the point or agree with you. It only means I've made my point and I don't mind you having the last word. Please wait a few minutes before "quoting" me. I often correct errors for a minute or two after I post before the final product is ready.

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