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    Re: Bullying...

    Quote Originally Posted by Cephus View Post
    I'm not assuming anything, I said even *IF* you disagree. I didn't say you disagreed, I said *IF* you disagreed. Maybe you're the one who is having a bad day with reading comprehension.
    I just said that I think that they should be allowed to kill themselves... you then ask me, "what business is it of yours to step in and stop them?" Why are you asking me that then?
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    Re: Bullying...

    Quote Originally Posted by TheGirlNextDoor View Post
    I did, only after I was told there "wasn't anything that could be done" about bring picked on incessantly. I figured, I didn't care if I got into trouble at that point. I felt I had to send a message, so to speak.
    That tends to work better than waiting for authority figures to get off their asses and do something about it. Solving your own problems works better than hiding behind the skirt of someone bigger.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    I just said that I think that they should be allowed to kill themselves... you then ask me, "what business is it of yours to step in and stop them?" Why are you asking me that then?
    You're the one arguing that there's something wrong with them if they want to kill themselves. I said that there isn't necessarily something wrong with them and assuming that deciding on suicide, in and of itself, is enough to conclude some mental or emotional aberration, is an irrational position to take.
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    Re: Bullying...

    Quote Originally Posted by radcen View Post
    I'm going to whip out an old cliche for this one, but "zero tolerance" equals zero thinking. If the bullied kid does defend them self, they get in trouble also. This sends the clear message to the kid that they were wrong to try and end the bullying, and should have let it continue.

    Sure, the official response would be, "You should have reported it and let the proper authorities deal with it.". Yeah, that works. What that means is that they will claim there's nothing they can do because they have no evidence and haven't witnessed it themselves. Something that the bullying victim has probably heard too many times already.

    IMO, "zero tolerance" is excuse to NOT deal with the issue.
    When I was in junior high, another kid was taunting me about something, I don't remember what. I told the coach, it was at PE, and he did nothing so the next time we got into it.

    We were both called into the office and I told the vice-principal that I told and they had their chance to stop it, they didn't so I did.

    We were both told to go back to class and I never Heard anything else about it.

    I also didn't have any problems with the kid again.

    I don't mean we had a knock down drag out fight, he got hit a few times and we were caught.

    The authorities have one shot to take care of the problem, if they don't you have every right to defend yourself, no matter the rules.

    You have to ask them if they think it is OK to get beat upon over and over again. Is that what the rules are for?

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    Re: Bullying...

    Quote Originally Posted by OscarB63 View Post
    you mean it's NOT???????
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    Re: Bullying...

    Quote Originally Posted by Mason66 View Post
    When I was in junior high, another kid was taunting me about something, I don't remember what. I told the coach, it was at PE, and he did nothing so the next time we got into it.

    We were both called into the office and I told the vice-principal that I told and they had their chance to stop it, they didn't so I did.

    We were both told to go back to class and I never Heard anything else about it.

    I also didn't have any problems with the kid again.

    I don't mean we had a knock down drag out fight, he got hit a few times and we were caught.

    The authorities have one shot to take care of the problem, if they don't you have every right to defend yourself, no matter the rules.

    You have to ask them if they think it is OK to get beat upon over and over again. Is that what the rules are for?
    I've always told my kids that I would never be upset with them for defending themselves. I don't expect anyone to take a beating physically or verbally and not defend themselves.
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    Re: Bullying...

    Quote Originally Posted by Nynaeve Meara View Post
    Umm, I don't think any human is fragile as a crystal unless you are talking about Sam Jackson in Unbreakable. However; there is no reason to allow continuous bullying like what has been in the news recently. It has nothing to do with fragile humans and more to do with poor protections from said bullying.

    There is still no reason not to confront the bully and no violence need be involved.

    I'd rather never see it personally.

    I am surprised you'd support it.
    There are millions of children in the country.

    How many does a situation like this affect? I mean the severe bullying that causes a person to kill themselves.

    I would says it is a tiny tiny number, so why get so upset about so few cases?

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    Re: Bullying...

    Quote Originally Posted by TheGirlNextDoor View Post
    I've always told my kids that I would never be upset with them for defending themselves. I don't expect anyone to take a beating physically or verbally and not defend themselves.
    I always told my kids that, and one time had to back it up. As long as they didn't start it, they would still have to take whatever the school issued as punishment, but they wouldn't be in trouble at home.
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    Re: Bullying...

    Quote Originally Posted by radcen View Post
    I'm going to whip out an old cliche for this one, but "zero tolerance" equals zero thinking. If the bullied kid does defend them self, they get in trouble also. This sends the clear message to the kid that they were wrong to try and end the bullying, and should have let it continue.

    Sure, the official response would be, "You should have reported it and let the proper authorities deal with it.". Yeah, that works. What that means is that they will claim there's nothing they can do because they have no evidence and haven't witnessed it themselves. Something that the bullying victim has probably heard too many times already.

    IMO, "zero tolerance" is excuse to NOT deal with the issue.

    don't misunderstand, I didn't say I approved of zero-tolerance policies. I don't. I don't think ANYONE should ever be required to be someone else's doormat just to stay out of trouble.

    I'm just saying that is the lay of the land and you have to deal with the way it is today, not the way it was in my day.

    Basically I told my son, well I told him a lot of things and I got involved in some cases, but three things I told him:

    1. It is okay to defend yourself against physical assault. If someone lays unwelcome hands on you, or draws back a fist and steps up like they're gonna use it, do what you have to do and I will back you up 100%.

    2. If someone is running their mouth, just tell them "talk is cheap" and try hard to ignore them thereafter. Trolls tend to go away if you don't feed them.

    3. If you just can't STAND it anymore... tell me, and we'll figure out something together.

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    Re: Bullying...

    Quote Originally Posted by Gipper View Post
    Not the same. When someone is assaulted, there needs to be intervention. Getting your ass kicked, pushed down a flight of stairs, etc. need to be addressed regardless of circumstances. What I'm saying is that we don't need legislature that's going to criminalize the quarterback knocking your trapper keeper out of your hands in the hall, or having a mean name written on a piece of paper and put on your locker. There are people out there that think we need to call a cop if you get hit with Jello from across the lunch hall.
    That would be assault.

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