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    Re: Bullying...

    Quote Originally Posted by radcen View Post
    Bullying... the new trendy social issue. How are we doing at addressing it?

    I don't think any reasonable person would deny that bullying exists, but... are we properly addressing the issue or are we blowing it out of proportion?
    Obviously some people take it to an extreme and that needs to be dealt with but, overall, I think we should spend a lot less time on children's feelings and more on whether they're learning in school. I think we need to drop the whole "I'm offended" stuff altogether though. I'm not really sure when offending someone became the biggest deal ever and I'm less sure on why it is such a bad idea.

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    Re: Bullying...

    Quote Originally Posted by DiAnna View Post
    Bullying has always been ignored, and the victim told to "man up" or "quit whining", etc. Teachers pretend it doesn't exist because they don't want to deal with the bully's parents, parents of bullies excuse it with part of growing up, parents of victims wring their hands because they honestly don't know what to do about it.

    Fact is, bullying has gone global, and bullying kills. Victims of bullying, even if they don't take their own lives (which all too many do) have their personalities irrevocably changed by what is happening to them. Their sense of self-worth, of safety, of simply being a kid, are all stripped from them. And we as a nation have allowed this to happen.

    No, we haven't done enough to stop it... not by a long shot.
    Technology has outpaced the law. Nobody could've predicted the rise and immense popularity of social utilities such as Facebook and Twitter and etc., and these are used so frequently now to bully. Here's just one example: Hannah Smith, Bullying Suicide: Top 10 Facts You Need to Know | HEAVY

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    Re: Bullying...

    Quote Originally Posted by Dapper Andy View Post
    Why can't you just acknowledge you said something stupid, correct yourself, and move on?
    If you understood what I said accurately and brought it back to me and I recognized it as stupid then I would, but if you assign it a meaning that is inaccurate and MAKES it stupid I really don't need to own that.

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    Re: Bullying...

    Quote Originally Posted by Captain Adverse View Post
    Not really. If I am a crip and 5 bloods see me? I can fight my ass off and they'll still gladly beat the crap out of me and spit on me too. Prison? Gangs respect power and they don't waste it on minor issues. So in there sometimes facing up works, in others not so much.

    Now back the the real world...how do you handle a situation when some mean girls post embarassing things about your daughter on the internet...for millions to see? How do you handle your son getting a beat down so bad he almost loses an eye or suffers a broken bone? Tell him to go back so they can happily do it again? Back in the day I belonged to a teen gang, and unless it was a gang battle they pretty much let it be one on one. Now? Pssh, it's a gang beat-down.
    I know everything has to be taken to an extreme on a political message board but is bloods fighting crips over turf really an example of bullying?

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    Re: Bullying...

    Quote Originally Posted by opendebate View Post
    If you understood what I said accurately and brought it back to me and I recognized it as stupid then I would, but if you assign it a meaning that is inaccurate and MAKES it stupid I really don't need to own that.
    I guess stupidity is just the "opendebate way".

    Which obviously doesn't mean I'm singling out you because ... ya know ... that makes sense.


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    Re: Bullying...

    Quote Originally Posted by Dapper Andy View Post
    I know everything has to be taken to an extreme on a political message board but is bloods fighting crips over turf really an example of bullying?
    The member I responded to raised gang and prison issues. Hence, my response. OKay? Read back.

    When I originally referred to "gangs" I meant gangs of kids, although in many schools real gangs can be troublesome too.
    If I stop responding it doesn't mean I've conceded the point or agree with you. It only means I've made my point and I don't mind you having the last word. Please wait a few minutes before "quoting" me. I often correct errors for a minute or two after I post before the final product is ready.

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    Re: Bullying...

    It seems like there are some different views of what bullying is. It's often not just physical. In fact, physical bullying is likely rare compared with psychological and social bullying. Kids don't face a bully who wants to hit them, but rather bullies who single them out for derision and ostracizing. And as a kid faces that, every day, for years, they may become depressed, more likely to turn to drugs, or lose all confidence. They become damaged before they become adults. These kids can't fight back, they can't have the movie moment where they win a fistfight with the bully. They'll get in trouble for starting the physical fight.

    It's a cliche, but a true one that bullies are often troubled themselves. Counseling, dealing with their problems at home, and making sure that their attacks on others aren't ignored are key to stopping the cycle. A lot of bullying likely comes from bad parenting, especially authoritarian parenting.
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    Re: Bullying...

    Quote Originally Posted by Captain Adverse View Post
    The member I responded to raised gang and prison issues. Hence, my response. OKay? Read back.

    When I originally referred to "gangs" I meant gangs of kids, although in many schools real gangs can be troublesome too.
    I just think there is a big different between something that are serious and others that are relatively trivial.

    "Gangs" of kids attacking the son you mentioned previously and severely hurting him is very serious but the daughter who had her feelings hurt is relatively trivial. I don't doubt being unpopular is no picnic but that's life.

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    Re: Bullying...

    Quote Originally Posted by Paschendale View Post
    It seems like there are some different views of what bullying is. It's often not just physical. In fact, physical bullying is likely rare compared with psychological and social bullying. Kids don't face a bully who wants to hit them, but rather bullies who single them out for derision and ostracizing. And as a kid faces that, every day, for years, they may become depressed, more likely to turn to drugs, or lose all confidence. They become damaged before they become adults. These kids can't fight back, they can't have the movie moment where they win a fistfight with the bully. They'll get in trouble for starting the physical fight.

    It's a cliche, but a true one that bullies are often troubled themselves. Counseling, dealing with their problems at home, and making sure that their attacks on others aren't ignored are key to stopping the cycle. A lot of bullying likely comes from bad parenting, especially authoritarian parenting.
    and a lot of people have eggshell egos and consider anything not about how great they are "bullying". The train derailed on its own accord.

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    Re: Bullying...

    Quote Originally Posted by Dapper Andy View Post
    I just think there is a big different between something that are serious and others that are relatively trivial.

    "Gangs" of kids attacking the son you mentioned previously and severely hurting him is very serious but the daughter who had her feelings hurt is relatively trivial. I don't doubt being unpopular is no picnic but that's life.
    You think so? Soooo taking pictures of her without her knowledge in a changing room or restroom in various states of undress or "indisposed" then posting them on the internet...not much of a deal huh? Or setting up a website focusing on her so that kids make fun as she tries to go to school? Then of course, sometimes it's more direct and violent. Girls these days can be quite fiesty and brutal in a physically aggressive way. Maybe you should watch "Carrie" only imagine it without the telekinisis, LOL

    If I stop responding it doesn't mean I've conceded the point or agree with you. It only means I've made my point and I don't mind you having the last word. Please wait a few minutes before "quoting" me. I often correct errors for a minute or two after I post before the final product is ready.

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