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    Re: Bullying...

    Quote Originally Posted by DiAnna View Post
    So boys who get beat up physically are a serious matter, but girls who suffer public ridicule and derision on-line is trivial? Did you really say something so callous and stupid??

    There are cases, probably thousands of them, where a girl has naked photos taken of her without her consent by a classmate in gym class, and those photos are distributed throughout the entire school and beyond, resulting in a flood of hate posts calling her a slut, whore, etc. Boys yell "nice tits!" as she walks the hall of her own school. She receives dozens of insulting texts, and if she has a facebook page, it is filled with derision, ridicule and taunts to "go kill yourself, whore". Boys don't want to be seen talking to her, girls either avoid her or join in the taunts. She's utterly alone. And it doesn't end when she goes home; it's on her phone, her computer, all over the internet. To you this is "trivial"? That is a completely disgusting and revolting point of view, reflecting no understanding, compassion or empathy. It's pathetic, and an unbelievably cruel thing to say.
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    Posting naked pictures of children online is clearly what I meant by trivial teasing.


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    Re: Bullying...

    Quote Originally Posted by TheGirlNextDoor View Post
    New?? There's nothing new about bullying. I don't think there would be a single person here that hasn't been the victim of bullying at least once during their life.
    I havn't. Physical bullying was literally nonexistent in my grade school and high school, and other forms were practically nonexistent. I can't even recall one time I've ever been picked on. There was one openly gay kid who got made fun of somewhat, but even then not much and not anything that went very far.

    Because of that I can't really relate to a lot of the stuff in this thread. But I do take issue with a few people who have said it's necessary to go through bullying as a child or you'll become weak and passive. Honestly I think most of us who went to my school are doing pretty well for ourselves.
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    Re: Bullying...

    Quote Originally Posted by Anagram View Post
    I havn't. Physical bullying was literally nonexistent in my grade school and high school, and other forms were practically nonexistent. I can't even recall one time I've ever been picked on. There was one openly gay kid who got made fun of somewhat, but even then not much and not anything that went very far.

    Because of that I can't really relate to a lot of the stuff in this thread. But I do take issue with a few people who have said it's necessary to go through bullying as a child or you'll become weak and passive. Honestly I think most of us who went to my school are doing pretty well for ourselves.
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    I don't think it's necessary to go through bullying as a child to toughen up but I also don't think it's the worst thing that can happen to a child.

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    Re: Bullying...

    Quote Originally Posted by Goshin View Post
    I'd throw in that not all bullies are the same.

    There are those who actually don't mean any harm, but they're just accustomed to playing rough and/or bantering in a manner others may take as bullying.
    There are those who are seeking power because they feel somehow inadequate or something, as you say.
    There are those who are taking their inward pain and trying to put it on someone else outside in the hope that will diminish it.
    There are those who just plain LIKE to fight and argue, and the more you argue or fight back the better they like it.
    There are those who are just mentally warped.

    Got to know what kind of bully you're dealing with to know how to deal...
    So very true. Boil it down and its a matter of respect in most cases, except the rough play which is just ignorance.
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    Re: Bullying...

    Bullying has always and always will happen... in schools there is no way to monitor or control it with text messaging, facebook, etc. What we do is to have restorative chats/conferences so that people can express themselves and learn to get along. It works many times but is not a permanent solution. Victims get to express how they felt, etc. Bullies get to explain why they did it, what it might be like for the victim and how to approach the situation differently next time (social skills - you would shocked at how many kids do not understand or think about the consequences of their actions).
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    Re: Bullying...

    Quote Originally Posted by Cephus View Post
    Except in cases where the problems are physical, or involve legitimate threats of physical violence, you're right. This isn't the kind of world-ending problem a lot of people pretend it is.
    I would even go so far as physical violence or threats therein, except in the case of criminal gangs. Even in this day and age of overly stupid no tolerance policies. Sometimes it pays to take the penalty.
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    Re: Bullying...

    Quote Originally Posted by TheGirlNextDoor View Post
    Bullies are to be pitied. I'm a firm believer in karma....and as we all know, karma is a bitch.
    I'm a believer in karma as well, I'm just disappointed that I usually don't get to witness it.
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    then you are a hypocrite and everything you say on the matter is just babble.

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    Re: Bullying...

    Quote Originally Posted by Gipper View Post
    If you can't handle words as a kid, you may as well just eat a bullet. It doesn't end at adulthood.

    I don't want to say "sack up, pussy", but...sack up, pussy. Minimal bullying is good, because it toughens the skin. It's also a good way to bust a runaway ego down a notch or three.
    Here is the problem even back when you are in school suicides among those who were bullied were more common than they are today. It just wasn't given national attention. A lot of thoughts in this thread are through rose coloured glasses.
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    Re: Bullying...

    Quote Originally Posted by German guy View Post
    Bullying among kids, right?

    Well, it's certainly wrong to just discard it claiming "kids will be kids". That's belitteling the issue. Most of that behavior dismissed in this manner would be considered serious criminal offenses when adults do it. And children should be taught soon enough that this is the case.
    Among kids primarily, yes.

    I find your point interesting. I cannot disagree wit it, and even greatly agree with it. I'm not sure the penalties should be exactly the same for kids as they are for adults, as kids don't necessarily yet know the impact of their actions, but I agree with the concept of conveying the seriousness.

    The interesting part is because the only other time I have heard this espoused... that kids should be held to the same standards as adults (regarding bullying, laying hands on, essentially kid-type behavior, etc.)... was from another person I knew on another forum. What made her points somewhat disingenuous was that she was one of the primary forum bullies herself.
    If you claim sexual harassment to be wrong, yet you defend anyone on your side for any reason,
    then you are a hypocrite and everything you say on the matter is just babble.

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    Re: Bullying...

    Quote Originally Posted by Nynaeve Meara View Post
    Here is the problem even back when you are in school suicides among those who were bullied were more common than they are today. It just wasn't given national attention. A lot of thoughts in this thread are through rose coloured glasses.
    Like I said - if something like certain things that pass as "bullying" causes you to kill yourself, you're just saving yourself some time before life goes and actually gets hard.

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